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TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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My only reason for posting is in case there is an error with the TFL PCN.

I believe that I am bang-to-rights on the contravention. I was driving in a new part of town, following the van in front in stop/start traffic. It was only after I had been stationary for a while that I noticed that: I was in a yellow box junction, and that I was outside a fire station.

I don't think I have any mitigations to the alleged offence, and older threads on Pepipoo about this YBJ don't look like they are valid any more.

So I'm here to ask whether there are any issues with TFL PCN paperwork? If not I'll eat my fine like a loyal citizen.

Thank you for any time you give to my question.

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« Last Edit: November 10, 2023, 11:42:53 pm by Truman Truman »

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Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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None of your links seem to work.

Homerton Fire Station is a "hardy annual" on here, and must make a lot of money for Transport for London, (assuming it is they).

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Even if you think you are bang to rights, if encourage you to get the video from TFL as you can sometimes be surprised. 

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Trying links again, fingers crossed...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JGj6MCN8wk4CSoR39






















Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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'Homerton Fire Station is a "hardy annual" on here'

I noticed that it seemed to appear quite frequently. Looking at the other posts, they seem to have had some reason for mitigation.

Really I was wondering whether there was some kind known issue with TFL PCNs with a boilerplate response

Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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Even if you think you are bang to rights, if encourage you to get the video from TFL as you can sometimes be surprised.

Is that obtained by completing a "Subject Access Request Form: Traffic monitoring/enforcement CCTV"?

Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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No, you ring up their customer service number and ask them to post it to you (which they will do, via DVD).  It typically takes around a week to arrive so do it without delay.  They usually agree to put the discount on hold for a few days to allow time for it to reach you, but make sure they confirm tihs on the phone (occasionally we hear of a call centre worker who isn't familiar with this policy and denies they do this, so do stand your ground if so).

Once you have it, upload to youtube or similar and post a link here.  The photos in the PCN don't look promising, but it's the video which counts.
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Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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Even if you think you are bang to rights, if encourage you to get the video from TFL as you can sometimes be surprised.

Is that obtained by completing a "Subject Access Request Form: Traffic monitoring/enforcement CCTV"?
No, you just call 0343 222 3333 and ask.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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Unfortunately my Mum has been taken ill, and I don't have the head space to deal with this. I think I'm just going to go ahead and pay this one.

Thank you both for engaging on this post.

Re: TFL, yellow box, Homerton Fire Station
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Unfortunately my Mum has been taken ill, and I don't have the head space to deal with this.
That in itself would have been some pretty compelling mitigation, which TfL would almost certainly fail to consider.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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