Author Topic: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5  (Read 1022 times)

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Hello. Hope all is well.

I have recently received a PCN for stopping on a red route/clearway.

I had a job collecting an exercise bike for a client and was travelling in the opposite direction from Stamford Hill on approach to the collection address which is on the main road (Upper Clapton Road). I then performed a 3-point turn in the main road, reversed a bit and stopped in the bay assuming loading/unloading were permitted at that time of 9am. The reason why I did this manoeuvre is because on approach to the signpost it is positioned before where the markings of the bay begin, facing towards the junction with Northwold Road instead of facing in an adjacent, centralised position outside of the bay or at the other end of the bay on the footway, where, if I were driving past I could see the sign in plain sight (if that makes sense). I then simply got out from the vehicle to check the times on the sign as I assumed vehicles can stop to load/unload between 7am-7pm.

Upon reading the sign it displayed "Except Loading 10am-4pm", I immediately got back into the vehicle and drove away, this was all within one minute, maybe even 30 seconds, from stopping to driving away from the bay. TFLs video evidence would clearly show me getting out from the vehicle to go look at the sign and then promptly return back into the vehicle to drive away.

Is there anybody in here that can advise/assist with an appeal/representation to get the PCN cancelled? Thanks. Much appreciated. Links are below. x

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The sign is clear enough on a normal approach, (turn left to enter the bay), and the sign faces the oncoming traffic because being a Red Route it's a no-stopping road. So if you approached in this way, you should have seen the sign and not stopped. TfL will refuse all reps regardless of validity, so you must be prepared to forego the discount and take them to London Tribunals if you think the PCN is unreasonable.  I think it is, as you immediately drove off when you read the sign.
BTW, forget all about "I assumed vehicles can stop to load/unload between 7am-7pm".  Never, ever, assume anything about parking in London or you'll end up getting a lot of PCNs.

Ah yes, that is true, never assume, but because it was an early Saturday morning I honestly thought parking would be permitted as some red route signage times do display 'P' 7am-7pm 1hour or in some 30 mins, that is why I went to check.

If I were to request the moving camera footage would TFL release this before an initial representation is made?

What can be the basis of the initial representation?

You can ask for the video, but be aware it is sent as a DVD. TfL allow 10 days for its delivery, then re-start the enforcement clock so you must be proactive if it doesn't turn up within the 10 days, and contact them on the matter. You would have a reasonable case at London Tribunals, but it is not a slam-dunk win, I'm afraid, and, of course, the full PCN penalty would be in play.
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OP, pl confirm that the PCN is addressed to you by name.

Yes, the PCN is addressed to me in my name and address.