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TFL - Haringey / 50u / Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)
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August 21, 2025, 07:02:57 pm
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HI
I recently received a PCN for making a U-turn in a prohibited location.
The turn was made on the A10 just after crossing the junction with Broad Lane (to the right) and West Green Road (to the left) – see attached Google Maps link for the exact spot.
It seems that quite recently a new sign was put up there prohibiting U-turns for 140 yards after the junction. Unfortunately, I did not notice it at the time (photo of the sign attached).
My questions are:
Is there any valid basis to challenge this PCN?
Could the fact that the restriction/sign is relatively new and I was not aware of its introduction be a relevant argument?
Does anyone have information on successful challenges or cancellations of a similar PCN at this location?
I have attached the following documents for reference:
Copy of the PCN
Google Maps location link
Photo of the sign
Link to a previous query to TfL about this restriction, along with the official decision document relating to this sign.
Location on google maps:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WLwgCm5qCf1ThSea9
Google Street View:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/E8W1Z8munw9S4x1J8
TFL - FOI request detail:
https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-0854-2526
GLA 2025 No.0034
https://foi.tfl.gov.uk/FOI-0854-2526/0034%20-%20Banned%20Movements%20Variation%20Order_Redacted.pdf
Any advice or insights would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much in advance.
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Re: TFL - Haringey / 50u / Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)
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Have you got he video?
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653
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Re: TFL - Haringey / 50u / Performing a prohibited turn (no U-turn)
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Thank you for your reply.
I've just requested it and will upload it once I get it.
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