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Is there grounds for appeal or challenging this due to the fact there is no evidence or video showing the entry into the YBJ?

Could I also use the TWOC and Conflation argument to see their response?

Thank you.

Thank you @cp8759 I shall call them up today and request the DVD.

In the meantime what else can I do?

What should I be putting in my representation?

So conveniently for them their system was "down" the first attempt of asking.


On second attempt I have just rung again / transferred to another agent and the footage has been issued

on DVD to me under a reference number.


They were very keen to know why I wanted the footage and wanted to try and explain the footage over the

phone to me but I refused.


Let's see what happens.

Shall set a reminder in 10 days time if hasn't been received.


Does this mean the PCN goes on hold or not? @cp8759

Status update but still no DVD of the evidence yet, any ideas what this status means @cp8759 ?

I’ve received the DVD in the post. What is the best way to get it up on here so it can be viewed? @cp8759

Well, I have to say the contravention itself seems to be made on from the video. You blithely entered the box with no hesitation at all, but the car in front occupied the only space, thus forcing you to stop.

However, don't rush to pay yet, bcause experts on here are very good at finding flaws in TfL's management of the enforcement process, so wait a bit, but don't miss the deadline for payment or submitting reps if nobody answers.

The contravention is causing a vehicle to enter the box then having to stop due to the presence of stationary vehicles

The video does not show the entry into the box nor the reason for the stop,

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Paragraph 7(1) of Part II of Schedule 19 to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 provides that no person shall cause a vehicle to enter a box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicle.

In this case the closed circuit television evidence produced by Transport for London does not show the Appellant’s vehicle as it enters the box junction.

Although the vehicle does stop within the box junction, I cannot determine the position when the vehicle actually entered the box, as this is completely outside the focus of the camera.

Considering all the evidence before me carefully I cannot find as a fact that, on this particular occasion, a contravention did occur.

Accordingly, this appeal must be allowed.