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Have you checked the address on your V5C is correct and up to date?

I did move house on the 26th of nov. I updated my V5c a week later due to all the moves (01/12/2024). However in the letter i received today there was no communication about the challenge on the 16/11/2024. It referred back to their inital PCN issued on the 7/11/2024 and said i had not paid within the time frame.

@seanjean123  -  how did you receive today's letter?  Was it forwarded from your old address or did it use your current address?  Had you informed the council of a change of address?

When you submitted your online challenge, did you get any acknowledgement or take a screenshot of your challenge?

I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70

Let's see this letter and confirm whether it has your current or previous address.

Leave in all dates.

@seanjean123  -  how did you receive today's letter?  Was it forwarded from your old address or did it use your current address?  Had you informed the council of a change of address?

When you submitted your online challenge, did you get any acknowledgement or take a screenshot of your challenge?

It was not forwarded. I got an acknowledgment email with the challenge.

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I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70

Let's see this letter and confirm whether it has your current or previous address.

Leave in all dates.

It has my current address no previous address was on it.

There is a 5th page which is asking me to write my representations

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Hi all,

I responded on the website to the charge and challeneged it. I did not receive anything back until today. I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70 as i did not pay the GBP35. I did not even receive anything about my challenge if it was successful or not. Please how should i proceed
Please post what you have received first. If it is a Notice to Owner, you must respond to it or lose any further appeal options.

OP, it's a simple NTO.

But what's not right on first viewing is: It has my current address..

On the face of it this is improper therefore we need to make matters clear.

The authority are required by law to issue the NTO to the 'owner' - deemed for these purposes to be the registered keeper on the date of the contravention and addressed to the keeper at the address held by DVLA at the date of the contravention.*

So, on 7 Nov:
1. Who was the registered keeper;
2. At what address(using an alphabetic descriptor i.e. A);
3. The NTO is addressed to address A or a different address?

*- there is one exception to this which is if the registered keeper has notified the authority formally that all correspondence should be sent to a specified address other than that held by DVLA at the date of the contravention.

I cannot see that this applies in the case of your draft informal reps.

OP, it's a simple NTO.

But what's not right on first viewing is: It has my current address..

On the face of it this is improper therefore we need to make matters clear.

The authority are required by law to issue the NTO to the 'owner' - deemed for these purposes to be the registered keeper on the date of the contravention and addressed to the keeper at the address held by DVLA at the date of the contravention.*

So, on 7 Nov:
1. Who was the registered keeper;
2. At what address(using an alphabetic descriptor i.e. A);
3. The NTO is addressed to address A or a different address?

*- there is one exception to this which is if the registered keeper has notified the authority formally that all correspondence should be sent to a specified address other than that held by DVLA at the date of the contravention.

I cannot see that this applies in the case of your draft informal reps.

1. I was the registered keeper
2. A
3. Different address - but my current address

I never notified DVLA of any.

Also on the 16/11/2024 i challenged the PCN but i have not received any information back from them regarding this. I go an email confirmation from parkingshop@bedford.gov.uk acknowledging this.

Please how best should i proceed ?

Hi all,

I responded on the website to the charge and challeneged it. I did not receive anything back until today. I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70 as i did not pay the GBP35. I did not even receive anything about my challenge if it was successful or not. Please how should i proceed
Please post what you have received first. If it is a Notice to Owner, you must respond to it or lose any further appeal options.

I attached the picture. It is a Notice to Owner. I am just surprised my previous challenge was not acknowledged

Hi all,

I responded on the website to the charge and challeneged it. I did not receive anything back until today. I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70 as i did not pay the GBP35. I did not even receive anything about my challenge if it was successful or not. Please how should i proceed
Please post what you have received first. If it is a Notice to Owner, you must respond to it or lose any further appeal options.

I attached the picture. It is a Notice to Owner. I am just surprised my previous challenge was not acknowledged
Don't be surprised, council incompetence and stupidity means this sort of thing happens quite a lot.  In fact, the regulations demand that a warning be placed on parking PCNs served at the roadside. See here, (3.(1)(c): -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/part/2/chapter/1

OP, believe it or not the authority are not required by law to respond to 'representations before a NTO is served' in writing, merely to consider.

But most do.

Don't beat yourself up about this. We don't need to go into detail at this stage.

As you've given your account, something is seriously amiss within the authority and you have a 99.9999% winning hand. They MUST address the NTO to address A. Your current address is neither here nor there.


OP, believe it or not the authority are not required by law to respond to 'representations before a NTO is served' in writing, merely to consider.

But most do.

Don't beat yourself up about this. We don't need to go into detail at this stage.

As you've given your account, something is seriously amiss within the authority and you have a 99.9999% winning hand. They MUST address the NTO to address A. Your current address is neither here nor there.

Please how you should i proceed ?

Hi all,

I responded on the website to the charge and challeneged it. I did not receive anything back until today. I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70 as i did not pay the GBP35. I did not even receive anything about my challenge if it was successful or not. Please how should i proceed
Please post what you have received first. If it is a Notice to Owner, you must respond to it or lose any further appeal options.

I attached the picture. It is a Notice to Owner. I am just surprised my previous challenge was not acknowledged
Don't be surprised, council incompetence and stupidity means this sort of thing happens quite a lot.  In fact, the regulations demand that a warning be placed on parking PCNs served at the roadside. See here, (3.(1)(c): -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/part/2/chapter/1

Please what is the best way to proceed

NTO posted 27th Dec.
Last day of 28-day period for making reps is therefore 27 Jan.

You have plenty of time....

..which is why I'm trying to nail the issue of addresses.

Date of contravention is 7 Nov. at which time you were the registered keeper living at address A which is the one still on your V5C;

You moved from address A to address B on 26 Nov;

(edit)

The NTO is addressed to B and not A.

Unless you have notified the authority in writing that you are the owner and that for the purpose of serving formal notices they should use address B and not A then IMO you win irrespective of the merits of the contravention. 


I did move house on the 26th of nov. I updated my V5c a week later due to all the moves (01/12/2024)

and....

I never notified DVLA of any.


Still causes me confusion!
« Last Edit: December 30, 2024, 11:05:31 am by H C Andersen »

NTO posted 27th Dec.
Last day of 28-day period for making reps is therefore 27 Jan.

You have plenty of time....

..which is why I'm trying to nail the issue of addresses.

Date of contravention is 7 Nov. at which time you were the registered keeper living at address A which is the one still on your V5C;

You moved from address A to address B on 26 Nov;

(edit)

The NTO is addressed to B and not A.

Unless you have notified the authority in writing that you are the owner and that for the purpose of serving formal notices they should use address B and not A then IMO you win irrespective of the merits of the contravention. 


I did move house on the 26th of nov. I updated my V5c a week later due to all the moves (01/12/2024)

and....

I never notified DVLA of any.


Still causes me confusion!

OK let me clarify

Date of contravention = 07/11/2024
Address on day of contravention = A
Challenged the contravention online - 16/11/2024. When challenging the contravention, i did not admit to being the driver but i signed my name at the bottom
Moved homes from address A to Address B - 26/11/2024
Updated VSC to show address B on 01/12/2024
Received a NTO on the 28/11/2024 at Address B with my name on it. The NTO was sent to address B directly