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H C Andersen

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Re: Stopped where prohibited on a red route.
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2024, 03:45:33 pm »

OP, you posted:
My brother recieved the NTO with the right to appeal letter which I need to send off today as my brother was late giving it to me.

..and then posted TfL's Notice of Rejection of (formal) Representations.(NOR).

An appeal needs to be registered by the addressee on the NOR with the adjudicator no later than 3 June.

There are multiple procedural errors on the NOR, let alone arguments regarding the contravention itself. But before dealing with these pl post the 'enclosed form' and a copy of the formal representations.

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Re: Stopped where prohibited on a red route.
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2024, 04:11:15 pm »
Ah ok, my mistake.
Thank you very much.
I will do this all now
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2024, 05:11:29 pm »
Ok, so here is the Initial reps i sent in originally.
https://flic.kr/p/2pUo1Yv

They rejected with this
https://flic.kr/p/2pUpQob

Then the NTO was appealed online with the template.

"Dear Transport for London,

I challenge liability because the alleged contravention did not occur. My vehicle was parked in a designated parking place, so the contravention you allege could not have occurred. Should this matter proceed to the tribunal, I will require TFL to prove that it has complied with The Civil Enforcement Officers (Wearing of Uniforms) (England) Regulations 2007 and section 76(3) of the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Yours faithfully"

Here is the letter they sent me for the adjudicator with the rejection letter.

https://flic.kr/p/2pUmXXM
https://flic.kr/p/2pUkRAi

I edited some of the lines out as i had started filling it out. Which has some information with names and addresses.
https://flic.kr/p/2pUoB34
https://flic.kr/p/2pUny1C
https://flic.kr/p/2pUhURr
https://flic.kr/p/2pUpeR5

I hope this helps.
Kind regards
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Re: Stopped where prohibited on a red route.
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2024, 10:43:56 pm »
@Torenaga do not send the appeal form anywhere please!

I will send you an email in the next few minutes, the 28 days don't actually expire until Monday night.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2024, 01:26:51 am »
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193.

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