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Please tell us more why you cannot provide proof of delivering goods.  Also the traffic order for the bays needs to be looked at to see if there is an exemption for loading.

GSV shows a yellow line at the kerb. This has its own restriction which is probably part of a CPZ, as I see no signs for it. The street is a typical Dog's Breakfast sign-wise, but the key is your loading as a reason for the PCN being cancelled. If loading is permitted at any time, then the traffic order should say so.  There are no kerb blips indicating a loading restriction.

Looking at the sign again, I think it is irregular and even unlawful. A parking sign is there to tell you when you can park. A Yellow sign above the white sign should have the times when parking is not allowed, and this should be the same as the yellow line.
So in my view the sign does not conform to the TSRGD 2016
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/contents/made

Can't see the PCN.

And you probably were parked on a yellow line between the bays. But is this really what the CEO believes....do they ****, if they did then they'd be no need for a photo of the parking traffic sign.

You need to draw them on this point and IMO at this stage do not mention loading because IMO this is immaterial as regards what is being claimed.

I parked in the parking bays as seen in the CEO's photos on Friday 8 Nov. I only intended to be there momentarily and did not consider that this was parking although I could see that this was written on the sign in evidence.

In any event, it's not possible to commit the contravention of parking in a restricted street within a parking bay and therefore the contravention is incorrect and the PCN must be cancelled.


What this is intended to do is to draw the authority on exactly what the basis is for the PCN.

1. If because the traffic sign says 'no parking', then apart from this not being a permitted expression which may be included within a sign(already mentioned by others), it cannot as a matter of law give rise to the cited contravention.

2. They're referring to the yellow line between the bays. Then you argue loading(you've already indicated that you were doing something with 'parked momentarily') and confusion because no there is no purpose in including the traffic sign in evidence.

3. They're referring to the yellow lines in the bays. In which case the sign in evidence does not convey this restriction and therefore it is not signed as required by LATOR.

Some thoughts.

Observation time is not a grace period. In any case the latest from Southwark which you posed (from last year) says 2 minutes. It's just guidance to CEOs to see if any exempt activity is ongoing. If you feel they've not observed exempt activity then it's up to you to show the activity.

This challenge requires careful wording - Mr Anderson has given the idea but don't send anything without posting a draft here first.

Why don't you draft a challenge HCA.

Only thing don't know is whether the OP was delivering anything that qualifies as loading.

Dear southwark council,

I am writing to challenge the PCN …. Because of

1. Defective/Non-Compliant Signage: The signage in question appears confusing and does not conform to the requirements set out in the TSRGD 2016. A parking sign is supposed to inform drivers of when parking is permitted. The inclusion of a “no parking” instruction on a parking bay sign is irregular and misleading, especially if it conflicts with the yellow line restrictions.
2. Incorrect Observation Period:
According to Southwark Council’s parking enforcement guidelines, a minimum of 5 minutes of observation is required for contravention code 01. The CEO’s observation period was only 3 minutes, which does not meet the required standard for issuing this PCN.

Given these points, I respectfully request that the PCN be canceled. Additionally, I would appreciate clarification on the specific basis of the alleged contravention.

Don't forget about the delivery aspect, and get that letter from the place of delivery. I suggest you might outline how the delivery process works, if you have no paper-work backup.