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Hiya, just wondering what my next steps are please? Do i go ahead and appeal for an independent adjudicator online at londontribunals website? Are there any points that I specifically need to include?
I assume the ONLY grounds of appeal applicable would be where it says 14 days to pay the discount but it was longer? -
"The penalty exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case. e.g. You are being asked to pay the wrong
amount for the penalty charge. The Penalty Charge Notice has not been served or was served out of time. The Authority should
normally send you the PCN within 28 days of the alleged contravention, but they sometimes have longer."


Just worried as the council's online portal says the pcn fine will go up to £240 tomorrow.

If I lose the tribunal will I have to pay the £240 - or is it the full charge of £160? Or is it worth to just pay the £80 now? I'm just really worried about the whole thing and it's stressing me out.

Thank you!
« Last Edit: July 27, 2025, 04:42:25 pm by Bliss »

If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum is the full PCN penalty.

If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum is the full PCN penalty.

So it would be £160 and not the £80 half price discount? But then online it says it will go up to £240? Many thanks.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2025, 05:10:40 pm by Bliss »

If no response to the PCN is received within the 28 days allowed, the council can then serve a Charge Certificate. this adds 50% onto the PCN penalty. That's where the £240 comes from.

If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum is the full PCN penalty.

So it would be £160 and not the £80 half price discount? But then online it says it will go up to £240? Many thanks.

This is the point upon which to appeal.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum is the full PCN penalty.

So it would be £160 and not the £80 half price discount? But then online it says it will go up to £240? Many thanks.

This is the point upon which to appeal.

Thank you so much!
So I'll include part (iii) and (v) of the legislation.
Is it required to do an online hearing - or results by post is enough?

Thank you.

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Is it required to do an online hearing - or results by post is enough?

Never, ever ask for a decision on papers. Opt for a personal ( = by telephone or video) hearing. This gives the Adjudicator a chance to ask questions of you and assess your credibility, and you a chance to emphasis certain points in yr defence.

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Is it required to do an online hearing - or results by post is enough?

Never, ever ask for a decision on papers. Opt for a personal ( = by telephone or video) hearing. This gives the Adjudicator a chance to ask questions of you and assess your credibility, and you a chance to emphasis certain points in yr defence.

I'll do that then. Just a bit nervous! Thank you for the quick reply.

I am offering to do this one.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

NOR failure to consider. Appeal sorted.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2025, 08:38:47 pm by Hippocrates »
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"