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Re: Shude hill PCN Sheffield, signage the wrong side facing wrong way
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Then how did the driver get there without observing the contextual road markings? And 'I've seen vehicles there a few times too so I was satisfied it was permitted.' would suggest you know the area.

You're free to make reps and pursue your legal rights(if you are the keeper) to adjudication. Your choice.

I'm simply giving you what I believe would be the council's view and that of an adjudicator.

Your argument is that you were parked on the carriageway with no markings to indicate a restriction. I put it this way because if you knew that you were not on the carriageway but the footway instead then as you are expected to know that markings may only be placed at the edge of the carriageway you were obliged to look for the edge of the carriageway, even if beyond a dwarf wall.
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Quote from: H C Andersen on April 01, 2025, 04:02:07 pm
Then how did the driver get there without observing the contextual road markings? And 'I've seen vehicles there a few times too so I was satisfied it was permitted.' would suggest you know the area.

You're free to make reps and pursue your legal rights(if you are the keeper) to adjudication. Your choice.

I'm simply giving you what I believe would be the council's view and that of an adjudicator.

Your argument is that you were parked on the carriageway with no markings to indicate a restriction. I put it this way because if you knew that you were not on the carriageway but the footway instead then as you are expected to know that markings may only be placed at the edge of the carriageway you were obliged to look for the edge of the carriageway, even if beyond a dwarf wall.

I explained in my very first post.. "placed in such a way the driver would never see it on entry or exit to the area."
I certainly didn't see them when I drove in at the side with the wall obscuring the view and it was during darkness. There are also two trees on the left side now which aren't shown on the street view.
There is enough space to park a car on the other side of the wall where the markings and signage are in place so it isn't reasonable any average person would assume them to also apply to behind the wall as well.

I would certainly like to make reps but I'm not yet sure what I should be saying.
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Re: Shude hill PCN Sheffield, signage the wrong side facing wrong way
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Anyone?
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Re: Shude hill PCN Sheffield, signage the wrong side facing wrong way
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Just submit some reps stating that you saw the double-yellow lines and assumed they only applied up to the low wall alongside the carriageway.

As you will no doubt have already gathered, opinion on here is divided or scattered. I have to say I don't think this is a case that is winnable at adjudication. However, don't cough-up without first submitting some reps. One never knows, they may shoot themselves in the foot in their reply !
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