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Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
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Don't pay. I'm pretty certain you've done enough to register the appeal and one of the grounds for a witness statement is:

You appealed to the adjudicator against the rejection by the enforcement authority of your representations but had no response to the appeal
« Last Edit: December 11, 2024, 12:54:54 pm by stamfordman »

Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #31 on: »
Thanks, I would certainly do this if it were me, but he may well be sick of this after a year of being on hold to the TEC...!


For what it's worth I do appreciate that normally the most likely explanation would be that he lost the form.  However he is quite elderly but an old skool financial advisor, and he meticulously files literally everything, even the envelopes they arrive in.
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Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #32 on: »
If the tribunal are happy to step outside procedure, fine, just go with it.

All that's needed now is the case no.

The appellant can add further details even up to the date of the hearing.

IMO, the keeper may not engage the TEC procedure because a NOR has been issued, it's just deficient in some details. The fact that the tribunal has been contacted bears witness to the fact that it was received. 

Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #33 on: »


IMO, the keeper may not engage the TEC procedure because a NOR has been issued, it's just deficient in some details. The fact that the tribunal has been contacted bears witness to the fact that it was received.

And how about this ground?:

You appealed to the adjudicator against the rejection by the enforcement authority of your representations but had no response to the appeal

If the email rep is taken to have been received (as per their instructions) and yet the enforcement process continues, is this not a valid ground?

At the moment it's a choice between paying a completely winnable and completely cynically-administrated (on the part of the council) fine or not.

Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #34 on: »
I think you're good to go on this.

What exactly did the tribunal say?
What did you send?
What acknowledgement did you get?

Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #35 on: »
Tribunal:

Their instructions (by telephone):
- Send it to queries@londontribunals.org.uk
- Mark it "urgent"
- Include a copy of the NOR and an outline of the appeal
(all of this was done)

Received so far:
Automatic Response
Thank you for contacting London Tribunals.

If your email is in relation to a personal appeal hearing scheduled to take place in the next 2/3 days, please contact our call centre during opening hours on 020 7520 7200. 

London Tribunals is committed to taking action to ensure that the way we work does not place people with disabilities at a disadvantage. If you have any concerns about your requirements during the appeals process, we may be able to make reasonable adjustments to mitigate those concerns. More information on reasonable adjustments and how to contact us about them can be found on our website: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/reasonable-adjustments-tribunal-users.

If you wish to submit evidence in support of an appeal that you made via our website, please go to www.londontribunals.gov.uk and upload your evidence through the 'Online Appeals' option.

If you do not have an appeal, or you did not appeal via the website, correspondence can be sent to London Tribunals, PO Box 10598, Nottingham, NG6 6DR or to this email address.

Details of our opening hours are on our website at www.londontribunals.gov.uk. Please have your case reference number to hand when you call.

If your email is in relation to an appeal already registered with us or a Statutory Declaration/Witness Statement that has been referred to us by the Enforcement Authority, it will be added to your case for consideration.

If you wish to register an appeal, please note that the quickest way to do this is through our website www.londontribunals.gov.uk or to complete the Notice of Appeal form. Please only submit your appeal once, either electronically or by post.

*Please note: TFL do not currently support our online website therefore, please sent all correspondence via our postal address   

The Notice of Appeal form should have accompanied the Notice of Rejection sent to you by the Enforcement Authority. You can send the form to us by post (details are contained on the form). If you did not receive a Notice of appeal form, please contact the Enforcement Authority directly to request a copy.

 Further information about London Tribunals and the appeals process is available on our website: www.londontribunals.gov.uk

 

Yours sincerely,

London Tribunals



n.b. re "If you did not receive a Notice of appeal form, please contact the Enforcement Authority directly to request a copy." their phone number tells you to get lost, and they have not yet replied to the email, so this doesn't work.

Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
« Reply #36 on: »
To whom was the NOR addressed?

If the keeper, then what in what you've submitted informs the tribunal that you have the keeper's permission to act on their behalf?



Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
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To whom was the NOR addressed?

If the keeper, then what in what you've submitted informs the tribunal that you have the keeper's permission to act on their behalf?

I'm not sure why they would think otherwise, as it wasn't formally signed by anyone.  Name, Address VRM, PCN no. included on the appeal to identify the case.  No name stated on the actual email.