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Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
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The time line of events were;

19/04/23 : Date of contravention,
25/04/23 : Date of notice for PCN posted to my house address,
05/05/23 : I submitted my appeal (I received email confirmation that they have received my appeal submitted by an online form),
14/06/23 : I received an email with a letter attached advising that I'm not the registered keeper of the vehicle.

My wife has only received the original PCN and no further correspondence.


On the morning of 19th April 2023 I was driving the car to work on the A312 in Hampton and the road I normally travel on had been blocked to all traffic by the police. I just followed the traffic in front of me down Queens road and then Burtons road. There were no signs for a diversion.

Subsequently I received the below PCN








The most recent correspondence I was emailed

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gpymEcl5rf2oRg9_rqWkQviBQwoj2pV-/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
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You can make a representation but only with your wife's written authorisation, so you'll need to get this. She is legally responsible for the PCN no matter who was driving.

However your representation also needs beefing up, it's lacking in detail.

What is the road that you normally travel on?

Where exactly did the police close the road? Give us a link to the exact spot on google street view please.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Many thanks for your reply, hopefully the streetview link shows where I was driving on the A312 towards Teddington. I would normally take the left at the roundabout for Park Road A313 but was prevented from doing so. I knew that Burtons Road was off limits to Commuter traffic.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4322429,-0.3674347,3a,62.8y,150.42h,70.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjDwv1S2Phus2Z-zC_j7_FQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

So the Police had blocked the road slightly further up the road from where you can see the Teddington sign post.

Traffic was actually turning into Queens road which is normally no entry.

I had already been stuck creeping along in the massive delays and so I just followed the traffic ahead of me.
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Were the police actually directing traffic up Queen's Road?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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No the police were not directing the traffic when I reached there.





















































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Quote from: Reluctant Driver on June 24, 2023, 09:13:34 pm
No the police were not directing the traffic when I reached there.
So you're saying there was no official diversion, and drivers (unfortunately this includes you) took it upon themselves to drive through a no-entry sign, is that correct?

If that's the case it's doesn't mean all hope is lost, but the representations will need to be worded very carefully. While you cannot lie in the representations, you don't need to incriminate yourself either and it's a fine line in this case.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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