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This was me. Dropped the wife off for a tattoo (at her age? but that's another story)

Don't know how to download the video but that tells the story in more detail.
I do vaguely remember this.

I need to turn left at the top of George Lane but there is a broken down vehicle blocking the lane.
I've seen it late and to avoid getting stuck behind the broken down car I position myself to the right hand lane.
I must have seen the exit clear but then realised the lane is blocked further along.
Cars coming out of Sainsbury's to the left are now also restricting my options.

I've reversed up a bit so I don't block any traffic, but no there's a car behind me so I stop.

The video does not show me entering the box. Surely it should or we don't know the whole story?
I don't know if other cars moved to avoid the broken down car.
I must have seen the exit clear as I entered the box but not clear why I'm already positioned to the right when the video starts.

Sort of (cynically) thinking the video is clipped to help them and not me.

Thanks Mr Chips.

I guess there's a clue in the contravention wording - ENTERING and stopping in a box junction when prohibited.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5LBTvHyIWs

The video is not clipped, the camera is designed by someone who knows nothing about the law and simply detects a vehicle stopping and then saves so many frames before and after the detected event. As the stoppage in this case is longer than the pre-programmed number of seconds, the entry into the box was never saved, so there is no "full" video that's been cropped, the video above is everything the council has.

The council will reject no matter what you say so I'd go for something very basic:


Keep a screenshot of the confirmation page.

Rejection received today. They have carefully considered the points raised in my appeal, which said:

 'The contravention did not occur. Please cancel the PCN'.






They are satisfied that I would have been aware the exit was clear before entering the box.

I'm happy to go to Tribunal with this on the basis they have not provided the video of me entering the box junction.

I assume I just say I rely on my formal repesentations and wait to see what Redbridge submit as evidence?

I've done this.

Away for 10 days in May so I'll postpone it until late May if necessary.

Yes I've requested a face to face hearing.
No rush on my part. I'll need to fit it in between a number of trips.

Less than two weeks before Tribunal.

Nothing uploaded by Redbridge yet but I guess that could go to the wire.

I have stuck with 'No contravention' and no other explanation.

I don't recall exactly what happened, only that I would not have entered the box without a clear exit and would not be lined up on the right.

Is this a case of going straight in with 'the video does not show me entering the box, therefore the contravention cannot be proved.' Sit back and keep quiet.

Or do I start with 'I wouldn't have entered the box without a clear exit. I needed to turn right at the lights up ahead. The exit was clear but the broken down car up ahead has caused other cars to block my route....but the video fails to show the issue at the time I entered the box and eventually came to a stop.

Could an adjudicator say, 'yes, but you have clearly stopped in the box and on the balance of probability....'?