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Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Got the NTO today.  Appreciate next steps on this please.






Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Main point to make is to not ignore it, or it's game over. Secondly, it is pointless paying as the amount demanded is the full penalty, no discount. However, when rejecting, the council may re-offer the discount to encourage payment, because going to adjudication is a PITA for them as they have to prepare an evidence pack and also pay the adjudication fee. AFAIK this fee is about £30

Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Draft for representation


Grounds of Representation

☑ The alleged contravention did not occur.

☑ There has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority.



REPRESENTATIONS

I make these representations on the grounds that the alleged contravention did not occur and that there has been a procedural impropriety by the enforcement authority.

1. The alleged contravention did not occur

The allegation is that my vehicle was:

“Parked without payment of the parking charge.”

That allegation is factually incorrect.

The parking charge for the relevant location and period was paid in full using the RingGo cashless parking system. Unfortunately, when completing the payment, the driver inadvertently selected the wrong vehicle registration number within the RingGo application.

This was a genuine keying error and not an attempt to avoid payment.

The council received the parking fee it was entitled to receive. There was therefore no loss of revenue whatsoever.

The contravention alleged is specifically one of parking without payment. Payment was made. Accordingly, the allegation that the vehicle was parked without payment is simply not correct.

Whilst I appreciate the council may argue that payment should have been linked to the correct vehicle registration, that is not what this PCN alleges. The allegation is non-payment.

Numerous adjudicators have recognised that there is an important distinction between:

* parking without payment; and
* payment having been made but recorded against an incorrect registration because of a genuine keying error.

The latter is not accurately described by the contravention alleged on this PCN.

For that reason alone, I submit that the alleged contravention did not occur.



2. The council has failed to properly exercise its discretion

Even if the council considers that a contravention technically occurred, I request that it exercises its discretion under section 87 of the Traffic Management Act 2004.

This was a genuine mistake.

* the parking session was purchased;
* the correct location was selected;
* the council received full payment;
* there was no intention whatsoever to evade payment;
* there was no financial prejudice to the council.

The purpose of civil parking enforcement is compliance, not punishment.

Cancelling this PCN would be entirely consistent with the Secretary of State’s Statutory Guidance, which expects authorities to exercise discretion fairly and reasonably where appropriate.

Should the council refuse to cancel the PCN, I request that it explains precisely why it considers it proportionate to demand a penalty of £110 where the parking charge itself was fully paid.



3. Procedural Impropriety

The original Regulation 9 PCN does not appear to comply with the statutory requirements introduced by the 2022 Civil Enforcement Regulations.

The PCN states:

“The Penalty Charge of £110 must be paid no later than the last day of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the PCN was served.”

However, paragraph 2(d) of Schedule 2 to The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022 requires a Regulation 9 PCN to state that payment must be made:

“within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention occurred.”

The wording used on Redbridge’s PCN appears to replicate the wording of the superseded 2007 Regulations rather than the wording now prescribed by the 2022 Regulations.

The statutory wording is mandatory.

Failure to include the information required by the Regulations amounts to a procedural impropriety.



4. Failure to include the information required by Regulation 3

In addition, I do not believe the original PCN adequately conveys the information required by Regulation 3 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

In particular, the PCN does not properly explain:

* that representations received before a Notice to Owner is served must be considered by the authority; and
* that, if a Notice to Owner is nevertheless served, formal representations must then be made in accordance with that Notice.

These are mandatory statutory requirements.

Again, failure to comply with those requirements constitutes procedural impropriety.



5. Request for disclosure

Should the council not accept these representations, please provide:

* the complete Traffic Management Order applicable to George Lane (C);
* all Civil Enforcement Officer notes;
* all photographs;
* the RingGo payment audit relied upon by the council;
* confirmation that the council has actively considered the exercise of discretion rather than applying a blanket policy.

Accordingly, I respectfully request that the Notice to Owner and the Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,
« Last Edit: July 09, 2026, 02:48:28 pm by flash2005 »

Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Good stuff. They are not obliged at this stage to provide the TMO etc but I have seen an old decision by Mr Chan which supports non-disclosure. Basically, ask them to consider your informal challenge as formal representation and DO NOT spell out the previous failure to consider.
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Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Representations submitted.

Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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I received the rejection letter from the council today.  They have offered reduced fee so is it worth paying or further appeal is recommended ?

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Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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I'd appeal.

Rely upon your reps and add further procedural improprieties.

The law provides:

Duties of an enforcement authority to which representations are made under regulation 5

.......
(8) If the enforcement authority does not accept that there are compelling reasons of a kind mentioned in regulation 8(5)(b) or that any of the grounds specified in regulation 8(6) apply, the enforcement authority’s decision notice must—

(a)inform R of the right to appeal to an adjudicator under regulation 10,
b)may contain such other information as the enforcement authority considers appropriate.
...
Appeal to an adjudicator against enforcement authority’s decision to reject representations
10.—(1) A person (“P”) may appeal to an adjudicator against an enforcement authority’s decision not to accept that—


(a)any of the grounds specified in regulation 8(6) apply, or

(b)there are compelling reasons of the kind mentioned in regulation 8(5)(b).

(2) An appeal under this regulation must be made within

(a)the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the decision notice under regulation 9(4)(b) informing P of P’s right to appeal to an adjudicator under this regulation, or

(b)such longer period as the adjudicator may allow.


Not only does the NoR omit reference to 'such longer period..' this error is compounded by their bespoke statement (using their 'other information that the authority considers appropriate' power) that after 28 days and if a CC is served then 'at this stage you would have no further opportunity to appeal'

B******s. They couldn't be more wrong if they tried.
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Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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+1. Also, the 14 day period is conflates "served/delivered" so one can reasonably assume that applies to the 28 day period too. So this is another problem for them.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/harrow-camrose-avenue-bus-gate-westbound/msg125486/#msg125486
« Last Edit: August 01, 2026, 04:22:14 pm by Hippocrates »
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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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This looks useful and applicable to my current case.  Has it been proven at Tribunal yet? Be handy to quote a case.

Is any member able to help with this please ?

There is an issue with the PCN which uses the old 2007 legislation re "served" rather than "occurred". I will dig out my skeleton argument. It is worth using as they may well mess up their reply or fail to consider.

The PCN

This states the old 2007 wording re served rather than “occurred” as provided at Schedule 2 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022

Particulars to be included in a penalty charge notice given under regulation 9

2.  The information to be included in a penalty charge notice served under regulation 9 is—
(a)the date on which the notice is served,
(b)the regulatory matters,
(c)the grounds on which the civil enforcement officer issuing the notice believes that a penalty charge is payable,
(d)that the penalty charge must be paid within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention occurred,
(e)that if the penalty charge is paid no later than the applicable date, the penalty charge will be reduced by the amount of any applicable discount, and
(f)that if the penalty charge is not paid within the period of 28 days referred to in sub-paragraph (d), a notice to owner may be served by the enforcement authority on the owner of the vehicle.

Further, I do not believe the meaning of the highlighted part is sufficiently expressed on the PCN as provided at Part 2 para. 3 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022
3.—(1) A regulation 9 penalty charge notice must include the following information—

(a)that a person on whom a notice to owner is served may, in accordance with these Regulations, make representations to the enforcement authority against the penalty charge and, if those representations are rejected, appeal to an adjudicator;

(b)that if, before a notice to owner is served, representations against the penalty charge are received at such address as may be specified in the notice for the purpose those representations will be considered by the enforcement authority;

(c)that if a notice to owner is served despite the representations mentioned in sub-paragraph (b), representations against the penalty charge must be made to the enforcement authority in the form and manner and at the time specified in the notice to owner.

Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Here is the London tribunals appeal with all points included.  Please provide feedback

London Tribunals Appeal

PCN:

Vehicle Registration:

I rely upon all representations previously made to the enforcement authority, together with all supporting evidence previously supplied. Those representations are repeated and incorporated into this appeal.

Without repeating those submissions in full, I make the following additional submissions arising from the enforcement authority’s rejection of my formal representations.

1. The alleged contravention did not occur

The allegation is that the vehicle was “Parked without payment of the parking charge.”

That allegation remains incorrect.

The parking charge was paid in full using the RingGo cashless parking system. The only error was that the incorrect vehicle registration was inadvertently selected within the RingGo application.

The authority has suffered no financial loss whatsoever.

The authority has never disputed that payment was made.

Accordingly, the allegation that the vehicle was parked without payment is not established.

If the authority contends that payment must be linked to the correct vehicle registration, that is a different issue from the contravention alleged on the PCN.



2. Failure to properly consider the representations

The enforcement authority was under a statutory duty to properly consider my representations.

Instead, the Notice of Rejection consists largely of standard wording and fails to engage with the principal issues raised, namely:

* that payment had in fact been made;
* that the council suffered no financial loss;
* that the alleged contravention specifically alleged non-payment;
* the procedural impropriety arguments concerning the wording of the PCN.

The rejection gives no proper reasons explaining why those submissions were rejected.

A failure to genuinely consider representations is itself a procedural impropriety.



3. The Notice of Rejection misstates the statutory right of appeal

Regulation 9(4)(b) of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 requires that where representations are rejected, the decision notice must inform the recipient of the right to appeal under Regulation 10.

Regulation 10 provides that an appeal must be made:

“(a) within the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the decision notice; or

(b) such longer period as the adjudicator may allow.”

The Notice of Rejection fails to inform me of this statutory right.

Instead, it omits entirely the statutory wording permitting the adjudicator to accept a late appeal.

That omission is material because Parliament has expressly conferred that discretion upon the adjudicator.

The authority has therefore failed to comply with the mandatory requirements of the Regulations.



4. The Notice of Rejection compounds the error

The defect is compounded by the authority exercising its discretion under Regulation 9(8)(b) to include additional information stating, in effect, that:

after 28 days, and once a Charge Certificate is served, there would be no further opportunity to appeal.

That statement is inaccurate.

The legislation expressly provides that an adjudicator may allow an appeal outside the 28-day period.

Rather than accurately informing the motorist of their statutory rights, the authority has stated the opposite.

This is capable of discouraging or deterring a motorist from exercising statutory appeal rights and is therefore a procedural impropriety.



5. The PCN does not comply with the 2022 Regulations

As submitted previously, the Regulation 9 PCN states:

“The Penalty Charge must be paid no later than the last day of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the PCN was served.”

However, Schedule 2 to The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022 requires the PCN to state that payment must be made within 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention occurred.

This point was raised in my representations but has not been properly addressed.



6. The PCN fails to include the mandatory information required by Regulation 3

As previously submitted, the Regulation 9 PCN also fails properly to convey the mandatory information required by Regulation 3 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 concerning:

* pre-Notice to Owner representations;
* the authority’s duty to consider them; and
* the position should a Notice to Owner nevertheless be served.

Again, this point was not properly addressed.



7. Contravention not proven

The authority bears the burden of proving the contravention.

The photographs relied upon do not establish the alleged contravention.

In particular:

* no photograph shows the vehicle together with the relevant sign;
* no photograph demonstrates the relationship between the vehicle and the applicable parking sign;
* no photograph shows the extent of the parking bay or the applicable restriction.

The evidence therefore fails to establish that the vehicle was parked subject to the restriction alleged.

Where photographic evidence is relied upon, it should demonstrate both the vehicle and the applicable restriction. It does not do so in this case.

Accordingly, the contravention has not been proved.



8. The Notice to Owner misstates and conflates the statutory time periods

The Notice to Owner states:

“If you do not pay the penalty charge in full, or if you have not made representations to the authority, within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which this Notice to Owner is served, the authority may increase the penalty charge by 50% to £165 and may take steps to enforce payment of the increased charge.”

This wording is capable of misleading the recipient.

The legislation requires the Notice to Owner to clearly explain the statutory time limits applicable to payment and to the making of representations. Instead, the authority has combined both matters into a single sentence connected by the word “or”.

A reasonable recipient could read this as meaning that a Charge Certificate may be issued where either:

* payment has not been made; or
* representations have not been made,

without appreciating how those statutory rights interact.

The wording therefore lacks the clarity expected of a statutory notice.

Furthermore, by compressing two distinct statutory requirements into a single composite sentence, the Notice to Owner fails to accurately and transparently explain the legal position.

Statutory notices are required to communicate legal rights and obligations with clarity. Where ambiguity exists, it should not be construed against the recipient.

For these reasons, the Notice to Owner is procedurally defective.



For all of the reasons previously advanced, together with the additional procedural improprieties identified above, I respectfully request that the Adjudicator allows the appeal and directs the London Borough of Redbridge to cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2026, 03:14:29 pm by flash2005 »

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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"


Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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Interesting arguments, looking forward to the results here!!

Rooting for you flash! Cannot believe this authority bypasses common sense in matters such as this when honest mistakes are evidently made yet the Redbridge push for cash in any case!... Unbelievable!!

Good luck Flash!
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Re: Redbridge Council, Parked without payment, George Lane,
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I would amend slightly:

That allegation remains incorrect and is not supported if a purposive interpretation is given to the relevant traffic order when read as a whole

The amendment would allow you to make supplementary points once you've seen the TMO. Following on from another recent thread, the issue of what constitutes evidence of non-payment should be tested at adjudication. Councils are creatures of habit and tend to use standard foundations with orders, all they change is the specifics. What constitutes evidence of non-payment tends to be a foundation item and I'm pretty sure it will allow the council to take into account whether in fact payment was made, irrespective of VRM which IMO is purely an administrative tool and not proof that payment was not made.

AND add to the procedural improprieties:

Failure to comply with the Secretary of State's Statutory Guidance

The NOR makes it clear that the authority have not properly considered my formal representations because their statement that the PCN having been issued correctly is determinative of the contravention is improper having regard to the TMO and their duty which is summarised in the Guidance as follows:

It is in the interests of the authority and the vehicle owner to resolve any dispute at the earliest possible stage. Authorities should take account of the CEO’s actions in issuing the penalty charge but should always give challenges and representations a fresh and impartial consideration.


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