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Hi all,

You have been very helpful here in the past so here I am again.....
Only just opened this as have been away on holiday - date of this notice is 01 August

From the video I entered the box thinking the cars in front would go to what I thought was two lanes... this is just before a set of traffic lights and the cars are queueing...I drove across the junction but couldn't pull in beside the car in front of me...

My car is actually only completely stopped for approx 10 seconds (from the video...)

Herman Hill is actually quite a long road with lots of junctions.

Here is the PCN



This StreetView is 2 years old, and doesn't show the box junction. I will go out now and take a couple of pics...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/E888AfqLUjiwEnTH7

I'm afraid I can't work out how to upload the video, but here is a link to it on the council website with the details to copy and paste if you think it's worth viewing...

https://my.redbridge.gov.uk/ParkingPCN/Review
Penalty Charge Notice: AF98917357
Vehicle registration: CV61XUX

If anyone could advise on what to put on a representation, and my chances here I would as always be very appreciative. I don't have long I think to put it in, by Wednesday I believe....

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Well, to be frank, you just rushed into the box without any hesitation at all when the car in front was still in it. This car then stopped leaving you in the box. The road is a single carriageway with one lane for each direction, so where you get the idea of two lanes from is a puzzle.
The 10 seconds stop time might seem small but it's infinity if you've ever thrown a hand grenade !  It's well outside the de minimis region

Well, to be frank, you just rushed into the box without any hesitation at all when the car in front was still in it. This car then stopped leaving you in the box. The road is a single carriageway with one lane for each direction, so where you get the idea of two lanes from is a puzzle.
The 10 seconds stop time might seem small but it's infinity if you've ever thrown a hand grenade !  It's well outside the de minimis region

Hi it's the third photo on my second set of pictures that shows perhaps two lines of traffic (car turning right at the lights just ahead of box junction).
There might be more traffic there today, as its a Monday that shows this.
But yes there isn't two lanes marked out so maybe not of any consequence.

By the way after giving it some thought I don't think it was actually me driving! Although it is my car...

I can confirm too that I have never thrown a hand grenade, and have no plans to

Any grounds for representations do we reckon?

So as expected LB Redbridge have rejected my representations, see photos. Hopefully you can just about read the first page not scanned very well for some reason...








If I could get any advice as to next steps, ie just pay it now or any reason to take it further, I would appreciate it...

There is a technical appeal if the OP goes to challenge and screenshot the grounds page which limits to one only and which in turn contradicts the law and the PCN.

Yes. I will dig it out.

2120030405. But the issue with yours is that it contradicts the PCN too which is correct. So, how do you decide if you do not know the law? It's confusing to say the least.

Thanks for letting us know.