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Redbridge / 34j - Being In A Bus Lane/Ilford Hill
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Evening All


Circumstances:
PHV (minicab) driver dropping off passengers. Simples.

Given the below, any thoughts before a similar succinct response is sent to Redbridge.

PCN redacted

GSV link

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/parking-information

Note: PCN reissued and received in the hirer's name as the vehicle was on hire at the time of the alleged contravention.  However, been reliably informed that according the regulations, the hire company should not be able to assign the PCN for a bus lane contravention.  Not sure how this clashes/tallies with the boxed text on pg1 of the PCN.

Regards - NTIAEP
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Just on the contravention this looks silly of them to enforce as you are a few feet away from the lane end and you could have stopped on the yellow lines with no issue.

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Had to submit initial reps below via email (receipt acknowledged by LBR) as the website wasn't working.

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Received the attached PCN.

Tried to submit a challenge online but unable to do so due to technical issues with website…..(see attached screenshot).

The challenge would have been as follows:
- the alleged contravention of ‘34j - Being in a bus lane’ did not occur;
- the vehicle with VRM: MF17VHY is a TFL-registered private hire vehicle (see attached licence);
- at the time of the alleged contravention, the vehicle was dropping off passengers.  Full CCTV footage rather than a shortened clip would corroborate this;
- you might wish to refer to:  https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/parking-information

Acknowledge receipt of this email and in light of the above, cancel the PCN.
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Have since received exactly the same postal PCN, albeit with the notice dated exactly a month later.  Will follow up with a polite email enquiring as to why.
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So as mentioned above:
- received initial PCN via post dated 15/09/25;
- couldn't submit reps online due to technical issues at LBR's end;
- sent an email with reps which was acknowledged and advised that it was added to the queue and to be reviewed;
- subsequently received EXACTLY the same PCN again via post but dated 15/10/25 (here)

Have since:
- sent a follow up email to LBR on 22/10/25 asking why the 2nd PCN, but as yet no response;
- just checked LBR parking online; payment is £160 and can't make any reps.

Your thoughts?
- follow up on my email sent on 22/10/25 and politely ask them WTF is going on?
- hold fire and let them make an even more of a mess?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2025, 05:09:28 pm by NTIAEP »
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Re: Redbridge / 34j - Being In A Bus Lane/Ilford Hill
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Next on my list.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


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Please email me the stuff. Hire company is responsible.!!!!!!!!
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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UPDATE: PCN cancelled by Redbridge council.....and rightly so!!
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Quote from: NTIAEP on November 23, 2025, 03:07:29 pm
UPDATE: PCN cancelled by Redbridge council.....and rightly so!!
I enquired as to why it was cancelled.  The response was, "The footage was reviewed by an officer and as the licenced driver made a stop for a drop off the notice was cancelled."

Make of it what you will.
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Quote from: NTIAEP on November 24, 2025, 02:39:04 pm
Quote from: NTIAEP on November 23, 2025, 03:07:29 pm
UPDATE: PCN cancelled by Redbridge council.....and rightly so!!
I enquired as to why it was cancelled.  The response was, "The footage was reviewed by an officer and as the licenced driver made a stop for a drop off the notice was cancelled."

Make of it what you will.

BS.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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