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Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #15 on: »
Please don't bloat-quote, it makes the thread unnecessarily long and hard to follows.

Here is a draft:

Dear Reading Borough Council,

I challenge liability for PCN RG91813766 on the basis of a procedural impropriety, I refer you in particular to the decisions in Anthony Hall v Kent County Council (with Tunbridge Wells BC) (KU-00042-1810, 07 December 2018) at LINK1 and Nigel Houlton v Reading Borough Council (RG00028-2002, 22 June 2020) at LINK2.

In light of those decisions the PCN should be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

I will PM you some links to put in the representation, they will redirect to https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1EoqML5pVDJePtRNZ11St3yHfKbSK8IuZ and https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Y-zAgsVsNR2FfYMyfTBvSCzejsS2lEaB but if you give them the links I'll PM you, we can use the click count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not (obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence. If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the evidence, we've got them for lying as well.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #16 on: »
Response from Reading Council:

The CCTV enforcement camera outside 1 Station Road and visible from the link provided is a LaneWatch Mk3 / MAV HD:IP provided and installed by Yunex Traffic.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #17 on: »
Please don't bloat-quote, it makes the thread unnecessarily long and hard to follows.

Here is a draft:

Dear Reading Borough Council,

I challenge liability for PCN RG91813766 on the basis of a procedural impropriety, I refer you in particular to the decisions in Anthony Hall v Kent County Council (with Tunbridge Wells BC) (KU-00042-1810, 07 December 2018) at LINK1 and Nigel Houlton v Reading Borough Council (RG00028-2002, 22 June 2020) at LINK2.

In light of those decisions the PCN should be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

I will PM you some links to put in the representation, they will redirect to https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1EoqML5pVDJePtRNZ11St3yHfKbSK8IuZ and https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Y-zAgsVsNR2FfYMyfTBvSCzejsS2lEaB but if you give them the links I'll PM you, we can use the click count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not (obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence. If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the evidence, we've got them for lying as well.

Many thanks and sorry for the slow reply - I was travelling for work last week.

This is excellent & I received the separate links. I was thinking of making written representations by post, also harder for them to casually click a link. Do you advise either way?

Many thanks.

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #18 on: »
I was thinking of making written representations by post, also harder for them to casually click a link. Do you advise either way?
No, send it online.

Two reasons for this: letters send in the post can get lost, while for an online representation you get instant confirmation that they've received it, and you can take a screenshot of the confirmation page to put the matter beyond doubt.

Secondly, you cannot click on a link in a paper letter, which would undermine the whole argument and could make you look vexatious.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #20 on: »
Just received a rejection from Reading Council, please see links for letter received.

Would be very grateful for any help in taking this to the next stage.

Many thanks...

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Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #21 on: »
They've considered the first case we gave them but not the second, so there is arguably a failure to consider.

There is also the substantive merit of the will / may argument, which finds favour with some adjudicators at the TPT.

The questions is now whether you want to carry on with the full penalty in play, if you want to pursue this I'm happy to represent you.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #22 on: »
Hi - many thanks.

Yes, I’m happy to roll the dice.

Thanks for your help on this. Let me know what I need to do next.

Best regards

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #23 on: »
DNC'ed.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Reading Borough Council - 'Being in a bus lane' - Garrard Street
« Reply #24 on: »
DNC'ed.
Amazing ! Reading are one of the more venal and rapacious councils outside London.