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34j bus lane Newham
« on: August 07, 2024, 01:50:04 pm »
Hi, I need help to see if I can challenge this PCN. A car was turning right and I tried to go around. I was in bus lane for 2 seconds. The video shows the car turning and 2nd car Infront of me moved left to pass and I did same. Video and pictures clearly shows that I have moved back as soon as possible within 2 seconds. Thanks for all help and support.

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2024, 01:53:36 pm »
I am trying to upload pictures and video but error comes up as upload folder is full.

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2024, 04:26:23 pm »
I am trying to upload pictures and video but error comes up as upload folder is full.
You have to use a hosting site then post a link here.


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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2024, 06:28:02 pm »

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2024, 06:29:31 pm »
My car is white

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2024, 08:35:56 pm »
We always challenge bus lanes. Once I see the PCN, I will draft a challenge.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply.
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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2024, 08:56:28 pm »

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2024, 12:34:57 am »
The problem you've got is that the car turning across the road to park is clear almost at the start of the video, yet you don't move back into the traffic lane, only moving out of the bus lane towards the end of the video. I think you'd struggle to convince an adjudicator, frankly.

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2024, 11:20:07 am »
I understand the video but it all taken 2 seconds. Car directly Infront of my car was indicating and I wasn't sure so tried to follow that car. Also the bus lane was ending after the bus stop. I understand what you said but it is clear to any human that I moved back to normal traffic and wasn't abusing the bus lane to avoid traffic. Thanks for your comments

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Re: 34j bus lane Newham
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2024, 12:07:04 pm »
Dear Newham

Ref:  PCN

I make the following challenge:

1. The alleged contravention did not occur  since the video does not show any advanced warning signage allegedly passed.

2. The alleged incursion is de minimis.

3. I put you to strict proof that the camera used is approved. If you cannot provide this, the evidence is inadmissible.

In light of the above, please cancel the said PCN.

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« Last Edit: August 08, 2024, 01:33:12 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply.
"Hippocrates"

ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μὴ οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι ε