Author Topic: Penalty Charge Notice for the reason of Contravention code 30 and parked for longer than permitted.  (Read 2102 times)

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As posted earlier by cp:

If your friend waits for the notice to owner and then make a representation within 14 days of the date of issue, then the discount is almost invariably reoffered, so there is limited risk in carrying on; and formal representations are often given more thorough consideration by a more senior officer.


When did you park?

I ask because of your last post:

they don't see the reality how struggle it is here on this section of the road for Parking for picking and dropping off Vulnerable Passenger. This limited Bay you are very lucky to find parking space, as usually it is always occupied and majority of the space is always occupied by the opposite residents with BB.

Let's no lose sight of 'assisted alighting' in the first instance - simply helping the BB passenger from the car to the property is permitted and their detailed knowledge of the area based upon previous experience as in 'we had visited my MIL on numerous previous occasions and targeted this parking place because it's near her property, although it's still pot-luck whether one is likely to find a space...'

This is NOT about writing legalese, in fact IMO least is best, it's about a compelling argument which IMO flows from a guided personal account.

It was parked at 08:45am on the Day and moved at 12:30pm.

He was saying from the last post, as his brother lives there and he always says there is a parking problem here , it has 6 parking spaces, there is medical centre (very busy with Patients and Deliveries) , Dominoes (Dominoes drivers, staff and Customer), Barber Shop Customers, Mini market shop, all above the shop is rented out as flat (all have cars per room), so they all have cars and then opposite residents has double yellow lines and there is 15 Houses , so they all want to park here and the limited bay is now parked more than ever and lot of people use the BB, so they don't need to move the car and which is not helpful on the limited bay side where cars are parked and not being moved and effecting the vulnerable people who lives on this side to get in the car safely. This Limited bay is majority always occupied by BB and you never see the BB person, as the family member use it long stay parking.

He said it was reported to the councillor to sort out, but the council are not willing to do anything about it. They have very wide footpath on the opposite side, but wont do anything to make parking bay, or footpath parking by marking bays, as they are not interested at all, so then they don't need to park on our side , which would help a great deal.

I will try a get a letter drafted and post it here for your opinion which you mentioned about the assisted alighting.

Thanks. The time gap means that assisted alighting doesn't apply because the PCN was issued 2 hours after the car was parked.

I think he wanted to reply earlier to avoid losing the discounted rate.
Tell your friend to stop worrying about the discounted rate. As long as the NTO is challenged within 14 days, the discount will almost certainly be reoffered anyway.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Thanks. The time gap means that assisted alighting doesn't apply because the PCN was issued 2 hours after the car was parked.

Noted and thanks so Assisted Alighting wont work in this instance, as it was 2 hours gap

This what they proposing to write when they receive the NTO from the Council.

I am writing to formally challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice.

On 29th June 2024 my vehicle was issued with a Penalty Charge Notice for the reason of Contravention code 30 and parked for longer than permitted.

First of I like to apologized the inconvenience caused. However, I would like to explain why I had parked where I did and I would like to submit an appeal for the following reasons:

Please see attached evidence of the disabled badge, as i forgot to displayed the Disable badge on my car dashboard, as I had to come on emergency as my mother in law had a fall, she lives on her own and had a phone call from telecare, so I had to make an urgent visit, as the family member who usually look after was away to London and there was no one in the house.

We had the 2 nurses come Michelle and Carolyn from Urgent Community Rapid response team, which I was panicking and rushed to come to Preston and the Nurses were already here and the carer, which took all of us 4 hours to get her up, make her safe, as she is very vulnerable.

She has Dementia/Alzheimer’s, One eye loss of eyesight’s, Breast Cancer, Chronic Kidney Disease, High Blood Pressure, High Cholesterol, Incontinence issues, Knees Bone to Bone, Arthritis, Mental Health issue, Depression, Very Confused and Vulnerable. She needs to be monitored 24hrs due to her Vulnerability and lives on her own.


Myself and my wife we live in Blackburn.

My mother who is severely disabled, lives in Preston on her own, who as carers visit 5 times a day and the other son and daughter in law who lives nearby went to London for the weekend.

Carers first called other family member, but as they were away, they gave our phone number.

So on the Morning I received a phone call/message from the carer to the effect that your Mum had a fall and would not get up and had to call in the Emergency rapid response team by the Carers.

We immediately drove to Preston and parked in Hurry which is where my mother lives.

My wife holds a Blue Badge, however in our rush we forgot to display this, as we just parked and rushed out in Emergency to go into the house.

The situation in my mother  house was emergency and we stayed there for 4 Hours until we got her safe and comfortable and she had to be carried to the shower room to be cleaned up. Luckily she did not have injury, just bruises.

Then we had to feed her and gave her medications.

Due to Dementia she would not listen or cooperate and this is why the Son and Daughter in law had to come to help and their time took up, lifting the old person from floor to bed and it can take up so much time with old people with so many illnesses.

Then it was a mission getting her up trying to take her to the shower room, as she was scared of standing up or sitting down due to fear of falling and this is how dementia reacts.

My wife Not well herself, as she has Depression and she can be like a dormant person depending on mood swings and takes medication and I had to bring her, as I am the carer for my wife and she needs to be looked after, as she was previously admitted to mental health Hospital and was a patient there for a long time.


I Would like to add my disability, as the My Husband is my Carer, as I have Severe Depression, which I take medication and I am always drowsy due to Medication. I have Heart condition and Migraine which I take medication, I Have Severe Arthritis and I need help from my partner and he is my full-time carer. I had to accompany with my partner, as he had to go to Preston due to her mum fall and would not cooperate with the carers and nurses and the main family member was away to London, so they gave my number to the carers for emergency.
The Medication I have to take are following Quetiapine 200mg, Propranolol 10mg Tablets and Fluoxetine Capsules 20mg,


I am requesting under compassionate reasons for cancelling the PCN that the fine be waived for this reason.



Yours faithfully,

I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Thank you for the link.

So they have emailed you the Link for this Limited Bay ?

Do I need to read or use some wording to draft the letter which had been wrote

They have not sent it yet, as they have not received the NTO and they wanted to see if the drafted letter was ok to send or May be amended by you guys if it was not appropriate. It may get sent around end of July 28 days or do I need to inform the parking services?

Hi Guys,
I have received the NTO and will reply as the post 20.







Hi Guys,
Parking services rejected the Notice to Owner challenge/ Appeal and also they did not give the discount, as they need to pay now £50.00 or appeal to Traffic Tribunal services.

Shall he pay £50.00 or go to Traffic Tribunal services and there may be additional cost mentioned the letter. I don't know if the traffic tribunal services will have the same answer the Parking services.





Pl repost the NOR showing all of section 3.

Just to say that if they have not re-offered the discount, it is no a complete no-brainer to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, because the penalty remains the same, and there are no additional costs. Only if you lose at the TPT should you pay-up.

https://imgur.com/a/iKcasi4

I will apply for tribunal , but I don’t think they will do much , they may go off the parking services respond.

This is the letter he is drafting to send to Traffic Penalty Tribunal for the appeal, as like you said he has no other option than taking it further.

https://we.tl/t-hr0iGscOhl

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/5ffd9b79f90684ba5b09317f488d74e220240810140607/4951ca8b0d4178d56f81a2adb7a3b50720240810140607/bec30f
« Last Edit: August 10, 2024, 03:11:38 pm by cyril »


Don't send anything yet.

Can I confirm that the NTO was dated 1 August, reps were dated 7 August and their NOR also dated 7th.

Also, how were the reps sent?

If correct then the forum advice to the effect that reps submitted within 14 days would secure the discount needs to be examined.