Hi all,
Coming from pepipoo.com where a moderator suggested I posted here (original post on pepipoo.com:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=152030)
First time poster, apologies in advance if I do something wrong!
I am gutted as I recently received a penalty charge notice issued by TfL for stopping at a box junction. This is in the intersection between Great West Road and Windmill Road, where there is currently roadworks.
You can see the links to the PCN, pictures and video below. I am the black car behind the bus.
I was waiting on the traffic lights on Windmill Road behind a bus to turn left (which is the only thing you can do given the roadworks), it was only the bus in front of me at the traffic lights and normally there are 3 lanes available to turn left (one of them was blocked because of the roadworks, which I didn't know), so I was pretty certain I would be able to get out of the box junction when I entered, however the bus stopped at the traffic lights just after the junction blocking my lane and leaving me in the box. The bus appeared to be doing a wide turn, so I didn't think I needed to have a particularly close turn, but then closed at the last minute and stopped invading the lane I was going for. I did not have enough clearance between myself and the bus to make it through the gap between the kerb and the bus (where my car would have fit), you can see me trying to get to it on the video but had I continued I would have hit the bus, essentially I would have had to reverse in the box junction to be able to turn enough to make it through. Had the bus not invaded my lane I would have been able to get out of the box with no issue.
Do I have any grounds to appeal this?
A couple other points I can think of is that the box seems to extend way beyond the junction, and had the box been just the size of the junction maybe I would not have ended up stopping on it. Also, with the roadworks, this is not a junction anymore and the only way to exit is the direction I was going towards, so I could not have prevented incoming traffic for going through, but I am not sure whether that matters.
There is also a lot of irony that a TfL bus made me get a TfL issued PCN.
Even though more than 14 days have passed from the day of the notice, because I had to wait for the DVD with the video to arrive, I am still on the discount period, the DVD arrive on the 9th of November, but the letter is is dated 6th of November, I am unsure when the discount period will end.
Thank you very much for any help, I really appreciate it!
PCN:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tSZ39FbkEEJ1ebLWm4fkB5eOOZZ763Ry/Pictures
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jLqRCXWYUKf9PCXJJ0_7Hfno4bVgYdBp/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uUS4pSlPWYlSlhuNMKM-1mZd0maFRaRQ/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oxv8euViVZBg53-dvDyqxfG4CmGGrR2P/Video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uhQRzWMWDdBdolhyF2SUlrtYy1bpPikl/