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PCN Southwark 52m Rye Lane/Hanover Park
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Hello,

I have just received a PCN for the junction at rye lane and hanover park.

The signage just before the junction states the right turn is for buses only but doesn’t state anything about the restriction to traffic on the left turn. I was unaware and from the picture on the PCN it wouldn’t have been possible for me to see the restriction until I turned the corner onto it.

I had no idea I had done anything wrong, but the sign before the junction made me think I must turn left.

Do I have any grounds for challenging this PCN?

Many thanks

https://imgpile.com/p/5EXldqJ#5QR2tZB

https://imgpile.com/p/5EXldqJ#YLBOo9

https://imgpile.com/p/5EXldqJ#eUVkmxP

https://imgpile.com/p/5EXldqJ#COIY5X8

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.471986,-0.069713,145.3h,-3.49p,1.62z,p9y5VE1a4UDtuug4wrKMiw
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Re: PCN Southwark 52m Rye Lane/Hanover Park
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Well, on the face of it, yes, as it seems you have been led into a trap with no means of escape. However, whilst your streetview link shows this ridiculous situation, what is its date ?  because signage is key here to establishing a robust apppeal. Traffic signs should not, ever, lead you into a trap.

So you will need to explain why you would seem to have ignored this sign on your approach to the junction with Rye Lane : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QHBuMUbR3hkDS4Te9
then this 2022 zoom shot, used because after reaching a point, GSV goes back to 2020 and the old sign: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QRyc8FXCnTdhJaW87
This tells us the restriction has been in place since 2022. Were you following satnav ? Fatal to rely on it in London, you must look out for traffic signs.
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Yes I was following satnav unfortunately. I don’t often drive in London and was completely unfamiliar with the area. Silly of me but I must have missed that sign, but I remember seeing the one just before turning and making sure not to take a right. 

Is there any hope for an appeal or should I just pay it? Thanks so much for any advice.

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Re: PCN Southwark 52m Rye Lane/Hanover Park
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Use my draft as per the other thread. Paying now without making a formal representation=joiningThe Mugged Club.
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Re: PCN Southwark 52m Rye Lane/Hanover Park
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Hi,
Where is the link to the draft.  I have just received the same pcn for the same spot rye lane, hanover park.
This site is also abit confusing to navigate seems to lead ti the same spot.
Thank you
Kay
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