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hi please can someone help : 1st post to the site - I have uploaded all info - The council’s insistence on a VAT breakdown report is wholly inappropriate given the life-threatening medical emergency that necessitated the parking contravention - they seem to totally disregard the hospital emergency and insist on a VAT report -
At no point would any reasonable person prioritise parking paperwork over a life-threatening crisis but i dont know how to go about it - please can experts guide? thanks in advance
Also adding that i was in the hospital with my father for 30+ hours - apologies didnt mention it before but it is in the attachments an overnight stay in A&E

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5399869,0.05295,3a,75y,163.21h,88.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.98352851365604%26panoid%3DKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw%26yaw%3D163.20863465007477!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 01:57:02 pm by Angel1977 »

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Please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up here (use ibb.co or imgur)
all sides of the unredacted PCN (if a postal PCN redact only yr name & address),
the Council's reply to your challenge (redact only yr name & address),
any Council photos,
and
a GSV link to the location.

So you couldn't start your car and had to leave it in contravention?

I take it you are a permit holder.

Newham shouldn't be using temp traffic order orders to suspend parking bays. What was the purpose of the order? Were you aware of the sign(s) before?

What was wrong with the car?

That said not consider the emergency that led you to abandon the car and ask for a breakdown report is pretty disgusting by Newham.

I'm surprised they didn't impound the car so you were lucky about that.

Have you got a close up picture of the yellow sign.

Post the PCN.





« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 12:13:32 pm by stamfordman »

hi thanks and apologies Moderator I have now redacted personal details and uploaded files to

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

I saw you did it for me as well or was it stamfordman - thanks to both of you

@stamfordman - replying to you now - sorry for the delay - moderator had asked a change in post

@ stamfordman -

yes i am a permit holder

Newham - shouldn't be using temp traffic order orders to suspend parking bays.

it seems they changed the law in Dec 2024 - and they are allowed to do that

What was the purpose of the order? Were you aware of the sign(s) before?
yes i was aware of the sign and thought will do it on Sunday evening when non-residents take away thier cars from the neighbouring street where this sign was not put up


What was wrong with the car?
battery dead

Have you got a close up picture of the yellow sign
no but it said for cutting trees branches and leaves - but there was no tree above this car - which is why they didnt move my car or impound my car

Post the PCN.
PCN and other docs posted

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

hi please can someone help : 1st post to the site - I have uploaded all info - The council’s insistence on a VAT breakdown report is wholly inappropriate given the life-threatening medical emergency that necessitated the parking contravention - they seem to totally disregard the hospital emergency and insist on a VAT report - At no point would any reasonable person prioritise parking paperwork over a life-threatening crisis but i dont know how to go about it - please can experts guide? thanks in advance

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

GSV LINK:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5399869,0.05295,3a,75y,163.21h,88.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.98352851365604%26panoid%3DKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw%26yaw%3D163.20863465007477!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D

Date of PCN 14th April.

You have had your challenge rejected. The next document is the Notice to Owner (NtO) which will be despatched anytime now.

Are you the Registered Keeper, and does the V5 have the correct name & addresss on it?

Once the NtO is issued, please post it here.

I agree with Stamf - Newham's behaviour is despicable.

However, have you any evidence of repair/replacement of the battery? If no involvement by RAC/AA,garage &C., and managed a jump-start could you get a statement from the person who provuided the jump-start?

Sometimes a Council's asking for additional evidence is an indication they may concede if they can tick a box.


thanks a ton @JOHN for the reply

Please also note : that i was in the hospital with my father for 30+ hours - so couldnt move the car on Monday (when the restriction was in place as i was just not there) apologies didnt mention it before but it is in the attachments an overnight stay (date admitted and date discharged) in A&E

The next document is the Notice to Owner (NtO) which will be despatched anytime now.
Ans : so just hold on till then? it will increase to 160£ it says

Are you the Registered Keeper, and does the V5 have the correct name & addresss on it?
Ans : yes - registered keeper and V5 has correct name and address

Once the NtO is issued, please post it here.
Ans : Will do

I agree with Stamf - Newham's behaviour is despicable.
Ans : thanks,

However, have you any evidence of repair/replacement of the battery? If no involvement by RAC/AA,garage &C., and managed a jump-start could you get a statement from the person who provuided the jump-start?
Ans : I was waiting for my friend to provide a jump-start for me - he tried but it didnt work - so i ordered this from amazon - please find attached but as you can see the date it was delivered was 1 May - council will say not within 24 hours - so not acceptable :

https://ibb.co/k6Wm550w
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 01:58:34 pm by Angel1977 »

The council has a duty to act fairly in circumstances beyond your control.

I would go on with this - if they reject again they will probably reoffer the discounted penalty but it is more high stakes now these PCNs have gone up to £160.

Another point is that the contravention is technically wrong - it should be a code 02.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 04:14:00 pm by stamfordman »

thanks @stam - i will go on as well

code technicality - is that a valid ground for appeal ?

Do Newham provide an online facility for checking the status/history of thje PCN?

hi @ John - yes - all these photos have been obtained from online

hi @ John - yes - all these photos have been obtained from online
and what does it say about the status/history?

hi @John -please see below a direct print from the Newham website - thanks,

https://ibb.co/Wvs5gq0V

It doesn't look as if they give a history of actions they take in connection with a PCN (unlike, e.g., TfL)