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Re: PCN - Parking in Loading Bay - Hereford Council
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Well... Hereford Council rejected my representation... They seemed more interested as to why I didn't explain why my car was parked there...

What are the next steps for me to do now?









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OK so off to adjudication you now go.  Clearly their knowledge of the regulations is deficient, or non-existent. If the regulation says something must be in the PCN then there is no escape from that if it isn't
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Is there any templates I can use to write my appeal? Are the points the same as what I raised during my formal representation?
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Hello,

What is the best way for me to appeal this at the tribunal?

Should I send off a revised version of my formal representation along with additional points of how the rejection letter didn't address why Hereford Council weren't abiding to the rules outlined in the Traffic Management Act of 2004?
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Best to put it in, as it is likely you might have to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. There is another much more shocking thread on this forum relating to Hereford CC and it is quite plain now, that the administrators are totally ignorant of the law they purport to enforce.
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Quote from: Incandescent on April 21, 2024, 09:07:14 pm
Best to put it in, as it is likely you might have to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. There is another much more shocking thread on this forum relating to Hereford CC and it is quite plain now, that the administrators are totally ignorant of the law they purport to enforce.

Apologies, I don't follow you. I believe I am at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal stage as they rejected my formal representation. I don't have a huge amount of time left to send over my appeal to the Tribunal.

I have been reading the other Hereford thread, honestly I am not surprised. I am eager to squash this PCN as the state of the roads here caused my wheel to buckle and of course they denied any liability, causing me to be out of pocket. Completely unrelated, but I wanted to vent about it ;D 
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Re: PCN - Parking in Loading Bay - Hereford Council
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@FaintPanda would you like to be represented at the tribunal? I'll drop you a PM in case you would prefer that.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: PCN - Parking in Loading Bay - Hereford Council
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Quote from: FaintPanda on April 22, 2024, 09:41:44 am
Quote from: Incandescent on April 21, 2024, 09:07:14 pm
Best to put it in, as it is likely you might have to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. There is another much more shocking thread on this forum relating to Hereford CC and it is quite plain now, that the administrators are totally ignorant of the law they purport to enforce.

Apologies, I don't follow you. I believe I am at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal stage as they rejected my formal representation. I don't have a huge amount of time left to send over my appeal to the Tribunal.

I have been reading the other Hereford thread, honestly I am not surprised. I am eager to squash this PCN as the state of the roads here caused my wheel to buckle and of course they denied any liability, causing me to be out of pocket. Completely unrelated, but I wanted to vent about it ;D
Buckled my wheel last week in Cheshire East, and have raised a claim. I think councils have basically decided it's cheaper to just bat claims away, than actually maintain the roads.
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@FaintPanda: I would take up cp8759's offer.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: PCN - Parking in Loading Bay - Hereford Council
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Thanks @cp8759

I was hoping to do this on my own back from research and advice, however this is the first council PCN I have had and appreciate having your expertise onboard.

Will gather all the information you need today.
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Ah mate, I'm sorry it happened to you too!

How are the roads in your area? It isn't uncommon to see potholes deeper than 10cm, which are over 30cm in diameter here. That's on the main roads! The back roads may as well be dirt tracks at this point.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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