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Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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I will use the above as a template.
Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car whilst the ticket was issued?
Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car was observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN evidence are timed at 20:54?
Presence of a person in the car is irrelevant; the vehicle was "waiting" so on contravention. PCN photos are normally taken after the PCN has been served so that a photo of the PCN on the windscreen can be taken.
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Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Is there anything else I could possibly add which could support/help with my appeal?

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Is there anything else I could possibly add which could support/help with my appeal?

Please tell us more about this:-

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Regarding any evidence of loading, I have none. I just got out of the car to help a family member into the building, up the starirs and into their flat with some bags.
Was this just a courtesy, or is the family member disabled or anything ? Apart from 'loading', there is an exemption for 'boarding/alighting' passengers. Normally this only allows picking up or setting down, but there is also 'assisted boarding' where the driver assists the passenger due to infirmity or disablement.

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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I will use the above as a template.
Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car whilst the ticket was issued?
Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car was observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN evidence are timed at 20:54?
Presence of a person in the car is irrelevant; the vehicle was "waiting" so on contravention. PCN photos are normally taken after the PCN has been served so that a photo of the PCN on the windscreen can be taken.
just to note some authority's mention the vehicle has to be "attended" at all times (which clearly cannot happen if you are alone) so might be sn idea to include it to head off that argument before it starts.
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Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets - challenge rejected
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I recently uploaded my query before Christmas regarding a PCN for parking on a double yellow whilst unloading. tower hamlets council have rejected it and I have added their response below. Their main argument is that the car was monitored for 7 mins or so and no one was seen to be unloading. I would be grateful of any advice on how to continue to appeal against this charge.

Tower Hamlets response;

refer to your challenge about the above Penalty Charge Notice, which has now been
considered in accordance with the Traffic Management Act 2004.
We refer to your appeal against the issuance of Penalty Charge Notice (PCN), issued for
parking on a double yellow line in a restricted street.
An observation was carried out by the Civil Enforcement Officer from 20:37 to 20:43, during
which no loading activity was observed. The officer also noted that the driver returned to the
vehicle after the PCN was issued, at which point the notice was handed directly to the driver.
The evidence indicates that the vehicle was parked in contravention of the Traffic Regulation
Order, and no valid exemption (such as loading or unloading) applied at the time. Therefore,
the PCN was correctly issued and remains enforceable.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2026, 12:47:21 pm by John U.K. »

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Please post a copy (not transcript) of the letter (redact only yr name & address - leave all else in)

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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(EDIT)

Please let me if you can access the PDF file through the above link

Regards,
Ashraf
« Last Edit: January 22, 2026, 07:07:54 am by John U.K. »

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Please let me if you can access the PDF file through the above link

Regards,
Ashraf

Yes - very clear - BUT

it shows yr namr & address long enough to read before the overlying redaction appears. You may wish to actually cover the name & address with a small piece of paper qmd then rescan or photo before re-uploading.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2026, 07:08:36 am by John U.K. »


Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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I have now re uploaded the link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kP2VG0JZUhHtS30Cyd83oTdbHnd8CR5O/view?usp=sharing



You have also redacted the date of the letter (dates govern the whole enforcement process) which was 19th January 2026.

I have deleted the link to the unredacted version from yout earlier post #21.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2026, 07:05:54 am by John U.K. »

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Thank you John,
I am a novice to this and still trying to figure my way around this site.

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
« Reply #26 on: »
@JohnUK

The date this was proccesed is 19/01/2026

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
« Reply #27 on: »
Have you received the NtO (Notice to Owner) yet?

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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Hi John,
No, not yet. I received the rejection on 19/01/26 with a further 14 days to pay the reduced amount from that date.

Re: PCN on a double yellow line in tower hamlets
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If you are to be successful with an appeal, and I mean an appeal to London Tribunals, you do need to firm-up your case for loading, because the CEO saw no loading activity, but clearly there was such activity. In cases like this, some collateral, like weight of the goods and maybe a photo of them. If you can assemble this, then you have a much stronger case to take to LT. The alternative is you pay-up now to get the discount. The whole system is designed to encourage early payment, so the 50% discount is offered. Basically, if you feel hard done by, you have to stand your ground and forego the discount option. Needless to say, not a lot of PCN recipients do this, because most people kn  ow very little about the legal process and think they have to pay huge sums if they lose which, of course, is totally wrong. The maximum financial exposure is the full PCN penalty.