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I have recently been given a PCN on a double yellow line by an enforcement officer. As I briefly parked on a double yellow line for 5 mins to collect something. As I walked back to my car, the officer was there printing out the PCN. He said he had monitored my car for 7 mins and that was the timing on the PCN. From (20:38 - 20:43) I took the ticket from him and he then started to take pictures of the car. Me and my nephew quickly hopped into the car and drove off whilst he was still taking the photos. I didn’t have any hazard lights on nor was there anything to show that I was unloading. The next day I viewed the images that were available online on tower hamlets.gov. All the pictures you could see me in front of the camera and you could see my nephew in the passenger seat. Only when we got in the car to drive off, the officer got a few good images of the back of the car and the yellow lines. However, it is dark and the double yellow lines are slightly faded. My hope here is that all 8 images online were timestamped at 20:43, but on the PCN it states that the car was observed from 20:37 - 20:43. But there are no photo evidence to prove the timings? The officer did say that his bodywork camera is recording everything so could that be used as evidence to show the timings the car was parked?
Any advice would be helpful.
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It may surprise yo to learn that photos are not a requirement . . .

That said,
As usual, for meaningful advice we need to see the documents so please help by having a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up here
(use
ibb.co or https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)

both sides of the  unredacted PCN ( leave everything in),
any council photos,
and
a GSV link to the location of the alleged contravention.

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What were youi loading (size, weight, etc.) and what evidence do you have of it?
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Here is google drive link with the images from the PCN :

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mkfilp_6fB02YSyZMPz-8covICL77IGw?usp=sharing
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Quote from: Ash487 on December 16, 2025, 09:08:18 pm
Here is google drive link with the images from the PCN :

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mkfilp_6fB02YSyZMPz-8covICL77IGw?usp=sharing
Your link won't open.You need to set it to 'Public'
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The Google view location link:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/e1p3VbkdYVHG7Wyt8

Regarding any evidence of loading, I have none. I just got out of the car to help a family member into the building, up the starirs and into their flat with some bags.
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Thsnk you @Incandescent for making me aware of the private googe link.


Below is the public google drive link with images of the PCN.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mkfilp_6fB02YSyZMPz-8covICL77IGw?usp=sharing
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None of your images work for me.

You first said you were collecting something now it's helping someone with bags into premises.

Exemptions are assisted alighting and loading but it sounds like you don't have a strong case - how many bags, how heavy, how far... was nephew no good for this...
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Hi,
This is my first time using google drive. Could you please let me know if you can view the images on the link below:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1y3tQNr3GkOFQnqEdBUHG5yMk46fzQjKP

Regarding the reasoning, I was helping a family member carry some bags up into the building, I assumed this would come under loading/unloading.

My nephew couldn’t help as the bags would have been too heavy for him. The bags were quite heavy, full of plates and mugs so I told him to wait in the car. He said he didn’t see and officers observing the car at any point whilst I was gone.
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Quote from: Ash487

As I briefly parked on a double yellow line for 5 mins to collect something

I was helping a family member carry some bags up into the building,

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Me and my nephew quickly hopped into the car and drove off
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Only when we got in the car to drive off,
I told him to wait in the car.


there are a few direct contradictions in your account which are likely to discredit your story going forward. I suggest you start with what actually happened do the appropriate advice can be given.

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+1

Good to see the GSV view.When somebody is on DYLs we always like to look at the location, because there may also have been a loading restriction which most people never notice. Here there is no loading restriction. Your case seems to fall into the loading exemption for yellow lines.
Please tell us more about the goods and how far you had to take them.
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So initially my nephew did help me take some of the load to the building door which is about 20 metres from where I parked but I then had told him to go back to the car and wait in case a parking attendant came. There were 4 bags in total, the heaviest being a load of a few plates and mugs so I had to be careful when walking. The other bags were pots, pans etc.
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Clearly the basis of any reps you submit must be the loading exemption. You need to fill out on the weight and bulk of the goods, and why it was necessary to park on DYLs to do the unloading. However, as you will find out, the usual response to a submission of a challenge, is for the council to send out a Fob-Off letter refusing it.They do this because they know from experience that most people, (>95%), then cough-up to get the discount, not knowing much qbout parking law. Is this you ?
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This is certainly not me and I do not want to pay an unfair penalty yet again to the council/government. Can yiu advise me what to write out on the appeal?
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I suggest you write something like this: -

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Dear Sirs

Re PCN <PCN Number> served on <date> at <location>

I am submitting a request that the above PCN be cancelled, as at the time it was served I was engaged in loading, (an exemption to yellow lines). I was engaged in conveying domestic equipment goods of such weight and bulk that it was necessary to park on the yellow lines to convey them to <address> a short distance away.
I therefore request that the PCN be cancelled.

Yours faithfully

Can you support the above with any details of the equipment and goods being loaded ? If so, I would include this as an addendum.
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I will use the above as a template.
Can I also mention that someone was clearly waiting in the car whilst the ticket was issued?
Can I also argue that on the PCn its mentioned that the car was observed from 20:47 - 20:53 but all the images on the PCN evidence are timed at 20:54?
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