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PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
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@cp8759 -, I visited my daughter and parked out side her apartment building,  the road where i parked has permit holders parking only signs on the opposite side of the street where there are parking spots, the side I parked on did not have any signs apart from one that stated no stopping , mon -fri  8 AM - 5PM on entrance markings , so I made sure I was not on the yellow entrance markings, upon my return I noticed a parking charge on my car,  I made an informal complaint stating there were no signs on my side of the street to say no parking and they rejected it, sending me the pictures if my car, and a picture of the sign from the opposite side of the street then proceed to send me a NtO.
My question is, where do I stand, is this charge unenforceable? I have read a few sites and they state signs have to be on both sides of the street clearly in veiw of the driver
I have atached the NtO, and picture of my car, with the permit holders parking only sign on the opposite side of the street, the sign that was on my side and a veiw of the the side of the street i parked, clearly no permit holders parking only sign there

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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
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You were in a marked parking bay and it does appear there is no parking sign in the bay. A picture of a sign in another bay won't do.

No sign = no contravention.

I think this is a controlled parking zone - they seem to have omitted a yellow line in the no stopping zone too. 



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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
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Thank you for your reply
So I was right, so I just put a formal Complaint in? Am new to this and don't want to get it wrong I just can not believe the cheek of the council, they dismissed it they probably didn't even look at it correctly

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Thank you for your reply
So I was right, so I just put a formal Complaint in? Am new to this and don't want to get it wrong I just can not believe the cheek of the council, they dismissed it they probably didn't even look at it correctly
You must respond to the Notice to Owner. OK, you may raise a complaint, but you must follow the process, I'm afraid, or it's game over.

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+1.

Post the PCN, both sides, your initial reps, their response and confirm the NTO is addressed to you pl.

Let's get all relevant info in play.

NTO dated 29 May therefore representations should be made no later than 29 June.(posted Thurs. 29 May, therefore deemed served Mon.2 June which is day 1 of the 28-day period).

You have plenty of time.

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Thank you , I have attached the otherside plus page 3 and 4

I confirm that this is addressed to me at my home address

Please let me know if I need to add anything else here

Thanks again for all the help received

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Also this is the first letter I received  after I disputed the charge


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You pointed out no sign on your side which they ignored, but I expect you didn't say explicitly you were in a marked bay that had no sign - that will be the grounds for representations, plus saying the signage point wasn't addressed at first stage.

I've checked and the street is in the Liverpool outer controlled zone. They also use permit parking areas but this isn't one as there would not be signed resident bays. There doesn't seem to have been a parking sign in that bay stepping back in Maps time.
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
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No i didn't state that i just said there was no parking sign,  I will in my formal letter.
My daughter has parked there no problem, and a traffic warden actually  told my husband it was free and no permit needed as that was the other side but obviously we can not prove this.

Do I wait? as I read the rules and it said to wait 7 to 10 days for all the evidence to be gathered 

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I have screen shot my informal complaint

It states i can supply photos, but I did actually  attach them when sent 

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@cp8759 I have written a letter regarding the above , I have attached this , I have not posted it as yet but does this sound OK? Thank you

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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
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I would just send this - do it online using the method specified in the note to owner.

Dear Liverpool,

the contravention did not occur as the bay I was parked in had no parking sign.

I did point out in my initial challenge that there was no sign requiring paying to park in this bay, and indeed there was no sign at all.

Please note that the picture of a sign taken by your CEO is located in a different bay in this controlled parking zone and not the one I parked in.

I trust this time you will cancel the PCN.

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Ok, keeping it simple .
Ok, thank you for the help I will do this.  :)

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I have now submitted it online so I will let you know what happens thanks again for all the help

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@cp8759
Hi, I have received a reply from liverpool council regarding my PCN parking charge,  please see attached

They have rejected it.
Please advice further

Thank you

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