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hoping someone can help me, i have a disabled badge and i went to the supermarket, there are spaces outside, and so
This morning at 9.15 i parked in what i thought was a space, and got some essentials, by the time i got back 10 minutes later there was a pcn on my screen, saying i had parked in a loading bay.
I did not even realise it was a loading bay as they have put a red fence across and i parked in front of the red fence, and i thought it was a space. can i fight this.

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Post the PCN (all sides), please, we need to see it as we don't often see PCNs from Bridgend. It may contain fatal errors.

Please also post-up a GSV link to the location.

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sorry for delay

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what i find confusing is there is a sign saying no loading at any time, and there are double yellow marks on the bit i parked in, and with the red fence, i therefore assumed this was not a loading bay

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The council seem to have repainted the road markings but failed to repaint the double-yellows inside the loading bay. Clearly, as a loading bay, you can't park there on a BB. The repainted double yellows also have kerb blips for No Loading. I have to say that I don't think a win is guaranteed, but I have yet to study the PCN.

I suspect the council forgot to remove the double-yellow lines in the loading bay, or they covered them over and the covering has worn off.

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« Last Edit: September 18, 2023, 12:35:31 am by cp8759 »
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
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Yes blue badge was displayed.

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Draft reps:

Dear Bridgend County Borough Council,

I challenge PCN PT32797885 on the ground that the alleged contravention did not occur. My blue badge was properly displayed and blue badge holders are entitled to park in loading bays. Further to this, the penalty demanded exceeds the amount due in the circumstances of the case, this is because payment is offered via a premium-rate telephone number. While I appreciate other payment methods are offered, that does not save the council's position in light of the decisions in London Borough of Camden v The Parking Adjudicator & Ors [2011] EWHC 295 (Admin) and Paul Bateman v Derbyshire County Council (DJ00037-2209, 10 November 2022).

Yours faithfully,

Send the representation via the council website and keep a screenshot of the confirmation screen.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

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thankyou, on the back it sayes to send appeals to somewhere in north wales. do i send there or my local bridgend council?

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To North Wales (Wales Penalty Processing partnership)

You can do so via e-mail: See -
https://www.wppp.org.uk/ChallengePcn

for instructions

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thankyou, on the back it sayes to send appeals to somewhere in north wales. do i send there or my local bridgend council?
As John says, it's 2023 and we don't want to be messing about with the post, just send it by email following the instructions on https://www.wppp.org.uk/ChallengePcn
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

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hello, i sent the appeal, and they rejected it ,   I wanted to say, i was only 5 minutes, but when i came out, i saw 2 very aggressive men standing by my car, i had had a bad morning with my son who was refusing to go to school and then when i saw these 2 men, i thought i cant deal with the way they looked ready for a fight.  what can i do, i dont have the money for food let alone 70 pounds, when i did nothing wrong.


Dear Mrs Selfridge Poor
Re : Notice of rejection of “challenge” – Traffic Management Act 2004
PCN No : PT32797885
Vehicle : CU56SXP
Date Issued : 15/09/2023 09:25:24
Location of Contravention : OLD SCHOOL ROAD, PORTHCAWL
I have received your objection dated 6
th October 2023 to the above Penalty
Charge Notice and after careful consideration of the circumstances have found
no grounds for the cancellation of the charge.
The Penalty Charge Notice was correctly issued. Your vehicle was parked in a
loading place during restricted hours without loading.
You say that the Blue Badge was displayed and that Blue Badge holders are
entitled to park in loading bays.
However, this is not the case; the Blue Badge Scheme booklet supplied by the
Department for Transport details “Where not to park” – The Blue Badge is not a
licence to park anywhere. You must NOT park: in parking places reserved for
specific users e.g. permit holders only, loading bays, taxis, cycles.
All vehicles are given 10 minutes observation to confirm loading / unloading is
occurring. If loading / unloading is seen during this period then enough time to
complete the action would be given.
Loading / unloading must be a constant activity; the bay is not for ‘waiting’. Your
vehicle was first seen at 09.15hrs and was seen again at 09.25hrs when finally
the Penalty Charge Notice was issued.
In relation to the points you make about the premium rate telephone number; the
Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges)
Regulations 2013 applies to retailers, traders and passenger transport services –
it does not apply to Local Authorities. Your reasons are therefore not accepted as
grounds for cancellation of the Penalty Charge Notice.
The Charge due is £70.00 and payment should be made by 23/11/2023.
If no payment is received by 23/11/2023 a “Notice to Owner”, known as NtO there
after, will be sent to the owner/keeper of the vehicle as registered with the DVLA.
Please note that this Notice will not be sent to the driver. If you are the driver but
not the owner, and you still wish to make formal representations, you are advised
to contact the owner who can respond to the Notice accordingly.
If this Council rejects the representations to the NtO, a notice of rejection will be
sent with details of the appeal procedure. You cannot appeal to the Traffic
Penalty Tribunal until the “Notice to Owner” has been issued and formal
representations rejected.
Yours sincerely
L Jones
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What is the date of the rejection?

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today, 9th november