Author Topic: PCN - London Waltham Forest - Yellow box stopping - ForestRd E17/KingsleyRd E17  (Read 945 times)

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The legislation sets out no time limit for response in respect of box junction ("moving traffic") offences.  However, London Tribunals have formally stated that they consider any delay in excess of 3 months to be unreasonable and so that serves as an unofficial deadline beyond which the council would generally have to have good justification.

Concerning that you did not receive a confirmation email.  The good news is that you are still within the deadline for making representations.

Not sure what the best way forward is here - whether to resubmit the same ones (be sure to take a screenshot or two while doing so if you do), or to follow up with WF somehow to check if representations were received.  See what others think, who might have a better handle on internal processes.

Deadline for representations would be 25 March by my maths (28 days starting with presumed date of service, 26 February).

Worst case scenario, if you were willing to swear that you submitted representations and WF sent you a Charge Certificate you would be able to reset the process on the grounds that you submitted representations but did not receive a Notice of Rejection.

Thank you! I suspect it's simply just bad council website and back-end systems.. I just resubmitted in order to get a couple of screenshots.

No reply as of yet - how long do they have? 56 days?

Worryingly I received no confirmation i submitted an appeal, and the WF portal allows me to submit another challenge; so arguably there's no proof I submitted. Very odd.
PCN is under the LLA & TfL Act 2003. The 56 days you mention is in the Traffic Management Act 2004, so doesn't apply. There is no time limit in the 2003 Act, other than their general duty as a public to act fairly.

Have a read: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/contents/enacted


Had a look online today and the amount owing is £0.  @zimmme did they accept your representations or did you pay??
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I got a PCN on the same junction after a car cut into my lane forcing an emergency stop. And I did like you appealed through the online portal. No response! I sent a further 4 emails to the PCN office, no response!...Ultimately I emailed the Council CEO office to complain about the total lack of communication. The next day I received an email from the PCN office cancelling the penalty. They stated on this occasion they used discretion which is nonsense as I did not commit any offence.
I am awaiting a response to my request they pay my out of pocket expense, being the car hire company want £68 administration fee for dealing with the PCN.
Perhaps someone here could advise the best course of action to get this reimbursed as I am not hopeful they will agree.
Clearly these PCNs are issued by AI which makes my blood boil that its allowed to happen.

Steve

Please start a new thread with your own circumstances if you want help.

The PCN office is normally pretty quick in responding via the CEO office. So hopefully I will know tomorrow how they wish to proceed. Of course I will start a thread should they refuse my costs. ty

Frustratingly my partner paid for it when she saw the letters the desk and I was away - though then WF did reject. I was prepared to go to tribunal but my partner thought she was doing me a favour.

Let me see if I can find the rejection.

If you have a Notice of Rejection I believe you can still take it to tribunal.  Please post it up.