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PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms

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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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I will take a look today. Sorry as I am retired - apparently. I did a concert many years ago at the tennis club.
Last Edit: February 05, 2026, 10:38:49 am by Hippocrates
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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Please could you advise when would you be able to assist with this as I would hate to miss the deadline for the appeal:(

There is no deadline for appeal as such. These, informal reps, may be made and are required to be considered at any time prior to a Notice to Owner being served which cannot occur until after 28 days, hence where '28 days' comes from. However, if informal reps are submitted before the discount expires then the discount is normally held.

The PCN, which we haven't seen(for reasons set out earlier), was served on ??

We need to look at procedure(the PCN) as well as the contravention, so pl visit the READ THIS FIRST message on the main page of the forum to see how to do this.
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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There is no Controlled Parking Zone sign at all. So, the contravention did not occur. I entered the road twice.
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I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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i am supposed to be retired but as an exception will deal with it.
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I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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They have re-offered the discount.

Why do you think you have a strong enough case to risk this?

Entry signage has been shown, so your only substantive argument would seem to be one of zone size. If you can find a body of evidence which is couched in numerical terms e.g. adjudicators more often than not accept this argument if a zone exceeds X sq miles/Y streets etc, then you might think it worthwhile continuing.

There are always prospective procedural irregularities, but you(the registered keeper) have to risk £70 to find out.

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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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Quote from: Vada_nevada on February 17, 2026, 03:24:14 pm
Good afternoon all,

Please could anyone advise if this case is worth fighting for and there is a solid line of defense? Thank you.
My view is that success at London Tribunals is not a 'dead cert'. You're only argument is the lack of repeater signs in what is a large CPZ. It could win, but you must decide if it is worth risking the extra £70
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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This should have been taken to the Tribunal.
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I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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