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PCN Harrow Council - Contravention 24 Not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space
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London borough Harrow, Contravention 24, not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space.

Rayners lane (stn-suffk Rd) Outside 377.

I parked in the parking bay but didn't park perfectly as I was thinking someone else can park behind me as there is always limited space on Rayners lane. I used the pay by phone app to use the 1 hour free parking ane went off to do some grocery shopping and on return I saw the PCN. I received on Friday 22nd May and if I pay in 14 days so I assume by or on Friday 5th June i can pay £55. I am wanting to appeal as I was parked in the parking space or bay but just not perfectly. I was hoping I can be given some gudance one grounds for appeal my car reg is WJ72KHF and the space behind my car is still a parking bay. Any help or guidance would be much appreciated please

PCN - Harrow, Contravention 24, NOT PARKED CORRECTLY WITHIN THE MARKINGS OF THE BAY OR SPACE , Rayners lane (stn-suffk rd) outside 377.

Received on Friday 22nd May, Car reg-  WJ72KHF

I was hoping I can be given some gudance on grounds for appeal as I was parked in parking bay but just not perfectly.

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Re: PCN Harrow Council - Contravention 24 Not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space
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I have asked the moderators to move this to the correct part of the forum.
In the meantime, please read and act on https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Thank you , I am a newbie and this is waht I understood to be the correct way to post from the link
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What is the PCN number.
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IY01946642
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Re: PCN Harrow Council - Contravention 24 Not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space
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It looks clear you are outise the bat at the front but I don't like these rows of bays where there is no offside line.







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Thank you for uploading, I would not have been able to do it, yes this is me, but it is still within the parking bay or space, do I have grounds to appeal?
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We need to see the controlling sign for the bays, not the one for how to pay by phone. It should say "park in marked bays"; if it doesn't then you have a case.
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I looked and there is nothing there is a sign that says the follwoing P 8.30 am - 8.30pm, Payby phone 0208 039 1101 quoting location 811661 Max stay 3 hours No return within 4 hours- I took a pic of this
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I don't think we've ever seen signs saying park in bays in on-street signage.

But we have a few adjudications saying this should be signed.

The requirement to park in bays will be in the traffic order. Harrow is keen on enforcing it.
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ok so is it worth me challenging it or should I just pay ?
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Just paying is joining the Mugged Club. It's always worth submitting an informal challenge. If they reject they will re-offer the discount, so you lose nothing. Their reply is often flawed giving the chance of a win at London Tribunals.
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yes i want to challenge it , I just do not know what wording to use , any advice would be great
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Dear Sir/Madam,

I challenge PCN [number].

The alleged contravention did not occur.

The vehicle was parked within a row of parking spaces marked only by short dividing lines rather than clearly defined bays. The markings do not clearly delineate the extent of each individual space.

There was also no signage at the location advising motorists that vehicles must be parked wholly within individual marked spaces.

I am new to the area and had used the PayByPhone app to pay for parking. I parked with consideration for other motorists and sought to leave sufficient space for other vehicles to park.

The council's photographs do not clearly establish that the vehicle was parked outside the limits of the parking place.

In the circumstances, I request that the PCN be cancelled.   - This is what I have from help of chat GPT - is this a good idea?
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It looks reasonable enough for an informal challenge which they almost always reject anyway. It's what is in their reply that may give the basis for a robust appeal at London Tribunals.
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