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Unfortunately my wife was snapped in  Hanwell (Ealing Borough) bus lane whilst  in route to deliver a  cake to the school for its PTA. The line is very faint in parts due to wear and even missing in others (due to re-tarmaking from road works) So I understand why my wife accidentally went in the bus lane too early.

I appealed to the council on the above basis and invited them to withdraw the fine for the above and they have still rejected it.

Id their any recourse?

Many thanks

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KNrnKAKCtNfbT28f9WQI9v-r3ftHK7ZG?usp=drive_link
« Last Edit: July 05, 2023, 08:37:10 pm by cedeiragreen »
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Ideally it would have been better if you didn't submit your appeal before consulting the experts here.

Was it informal challenge, or the formal appeal after they rejected your informal challenge?

Can you upload all sides of the PCN?
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Can you upload all sides of the PCN?

+1

Also post here a copy of your reps, a copy of their rejection, the video evidence, and a GSV link to the location.

See

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Thank you- I have uploaded a link with the documents. do not rewally know how to use this, so hopefully it works. Thank you
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You need to turn the sharing settings to "public", here's a video that explains how:

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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Thank you sharing permission updated!
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and below is the location on google maps. Thank you for your assistance.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ztuij9gPNAFSZT8W7
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Quote from: cedeiragreen on July 06, 2023, 05:13:02 am
Thank you sharing permission updated!
No you haven't, I get this when I click on your link:



An easy way to check if you've shared the folder correctly is to open the link in incognito mode from your browser, if you've done it right you'll be able to access the folder without logging into anything.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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PCN:





Representation:





You now need to wait for the Enforcement Notice, let us know when you receive it please.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Hello

I have received the enforcement notice. I have attched it tot he google folder. what should I do now?

Thank you!
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Here's the EN:





I have made some enquiries about the camera make and model, in the meantime please can you confirm what route your wife took. Representations need to be received by the council by 9 August in order to preserve the discount.

If you have time to go and get some updated photos of the signage that would be helpful.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Response from the council:

Your request has been assessed and the following information is provided in response:
A LaneWatch MK3 unit is at this location.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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How can they have carefully considered under the Traffic Management Act? Still doing this!  I would certainly raise this as a possible abuse of process.  In the Devil's Advocate mood.  TMA 2004 would suggest the service of a Notice to Owner not an Enforcement Notice.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Representations should be made by midnight on 9 August, as this should see the discount reoffered.

@cedeiragreen are you in a position to get us updated photos of the upright signs?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Thank you- I have uploaded the route map in word and pictures of the signs.

Thank you so much.
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