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Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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Will post their reply

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With Motability you don't get the original log book, just vehicle information that's held by DVLA.




@zexx
Apologies for an off topic question, is this info a scan from a paper document or from a web site?
I've been trying to find a way to check the taxation class info for vehicles in the past and to date have never found the info available anywhere online so if this is from a web site do you have a link to it please?

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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'Disabled bay outside my house'.

You got it right first time.

This has NOTHING to do with permits. As the applicable traffic sign confirms, this is simply about a disabled bay.

Were you in contravention? yes.

Of what? Being parked in a disabled bay without displaying a ....in the prescribed manner'.

What is 'the prescribed manner'?

Manner in which a badge is to be displayed
12.  For the purposes of section 21(4A) of the 1970 Act a disabled person’s badge is displayed on a vehicle in the prescribed manner if–

(a)the badge is exhibited on the dashboard or facia of the vehicle, or

(b)where the vehicle is not fitted with a dashboard or facia, the badge is exhibited in a conspicuous position on the vehicle,

so that the front of the badge is clearly legible from the outside of the vehicle.


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/682

The council is on a loser.

The contravention (the nonsense about permits) did not occur; there is NO provision within the law for virtual BB.
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Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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That's why I was wondering how they are letting you park in the disabled bay.

I think you need to display your BB - you can't assume that tomorrow they won't ticket and even tow your car to the pound (sorry to be alarmist but this council does this).

Whatever, you won't be paying this PCN.
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Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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With Motability you don't get the original log book, just vehicle information that's held by DVLA.

@zexx
Apologies for an off topic question, is this info a scan from a paper document or from a web site?
I've been trying to find a way to check the taxation class info for vehicles in the past and to date have never found the info available anywhere online so if this is from a web site do you have a link to it please?

That image is taken from a pdf of that I had to request from here https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/request-your-v5c

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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OP, can we get back to your issue please.

A PCN for '.....permit'.

Their reply shows you parked in a marked and signed Disabled Bay.

That's it, IMO.

Obviously you will deal with your permit in parallel  but NEITHER YOU NOR ANY OTHER MOTORIST requires a 'permit' to park in a Disabled Bay, simply a valid BB displayed in the prescribed manner.

As for now, wait for the NTO - you are the registered keeper with current DVLA details, yes?

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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We've been through this and I suggested sending a follow up challenge to cut this off soonest.

I've also suggested the OP start putting the BB on display in the bay.

It's a Motability car.

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+1 to the BB.

As for follow-up, it's worth a go. But the stupidity, obstinacy and systemic ignorance of the authority would probably prevail!

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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I was parked in the signed disabled bay outside my home. As the council requires a virtual BB permit when the hard copy is not displayed in these bays, the PCN appears to have been issued because my virtual permit was inactive.

I do have a valid Blue Badge, but it was not displayed correctly at the time. I now have a valid virtual BB permit, granted during the phone call (
Quote
).

I have taken stamfordman’s advice and replied to the council, stating that the PCN was issued for parking in the residence bay, NOT for the Disabled Bay.

Will let you know how they respond.

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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                                                                            Parking Services, PO Box 74924,
                                                                            London, E17 0UG
                                                                            Date: 28/11/2025

Dear ****** *****,

Traffic Management Act 2004
Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Number: FR66840203
Vehicle Registration Number: E20OMG
Contravention Date and Time: 20/10/2025 at 17:43
Contravention Location: ***** *** **
PCN Code and Description: 19z Parked in a residents or shared use parking place or
zone with an invalid virtual permit or displaying an invalid physical permit or voucher
or pay and display ticket, or after the expiry of paid for time (out of date permit)

Thank you for your correspondence in regards to the PCN as mentioned above.

I must advise that it is the motorists responsibility to ensure that they display their Disabled
Blue Badge correctly at all times.

When your informal representation was rejected, our letter advised you how to make an
appeal to the independent adjudicator if you wanted to take the matter further. This can only
happen after the registered keeper of the vehicle receives the Notice to Owner (NtO). At that
stage the charge will be at the full amount of £110.00

You have now written again to the council and I regret that we cannot deal with further
correspondence at this stage. The Traffic Management Act 2004 lays down firm procedures
for processing parking penalties and if you wish to take the matter further you will need to
wait for the NtO which will be sent to you shortly if you are the registered keeper.

New data protection laws apply from 25 May 2018. To find out why the Council needs to
collect and store personal data, how this is used and your rights to access your information,
please refer to our Privacy Policy which can be found on our website at
https://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/council-and-elections/your-data-and-privacy/our-privacy notices/parking-services-privacy-notice.

Equalities Act 2010 - should you have a disability and require a reasonable adjustment to
complete either making a payment or a challenge against a PCN, please email
parking.services@walthamforest.gov.uk or telephone 0203 092 0112 and select option 6.

Yours sincerely

C McFadden

On Behalf of Parking Services
London Borough of Waltham Forest

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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Their fault if they want to waste more time on this.

Nothing to do now but await the NTO.
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Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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What should I do next?

Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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The contravention did not occur.

I was parked in a disabled bay, as your pictures show.

The alleged contravention concerns parking in a residents or shared use bay. This plainly did not occur.

As the PCN was issued in error it must be cancelled.

I look forward to your early confirmation.
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Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
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Scam?