Author Topic: PCN Code 71 Coventry Council EV charging bay car park Holmsdale Road - EV car parked but not charging.  (Read 627 times)

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Coventry City Council Car Park:

PCN stuck on windscreen of electric car (not charging).
There is mo dispute an EV was parked and not plugged in/charging. Their evidence is the car parked oin the bay and the torm sticker on the charger. See URL for image.

Car Park here: https://www.google.com/local/place/fid/0x48774bf2f9b7c32f:0x8f533311f674f672/photosphere?iu=https://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?panoid%3DAp5bpW94I6tjgTiVfRq93A%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26yaw%3D70.79856%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100%26w%3D0%26h%3D0&ik=CAISFkFwNWJwVzk0STZ0amdUaVZmUnE5M0E%3D


Contravention: Parked in an electric vechicle's charging place during restricted hours without charging.

Contravention code: 71
Date: 02/11/2025
Observed from 10:42 to 10:42
Colour: GREY  (Wrong - actually Blue - but irrelevant)


1. 3 EV parking bays.
2. Road markings Electic Vechicles (faded and not complete lettering  e.g. C is not complete)
3. No pole sign indicating EV Charging. All signs on stickers on chargers.
4. First charger has no sticker.
5. Second charger has a legible but torm sticker.
5. Third charger has a legible stikcer.

Sticker states in white text on green back ground stick around a curved charger.

Electic Vechicle
parking - only
while charging.

Above text: White P in blue background (left)
White car charging symbol on green background (right)




Is the PCN enforceable - or is the signage defecient?

I thought stickers are not permitted signs.

Is the following correct?

Not Prescribed by TSRGD: The regulations specify upright signage on a post or column for visibility and standardization. Stickers on the charger (often at 1–1.5m height) are considered supplementary (e.g., for operational instructions like payment methods) but cannot replace the mandatory post sign. They may obscure when the charger is in use and aren't visible from a distance or while approaching the bay.
Enforcement Implications: Without the pole-mounted sign, the bay lacks "full markings," making PCNs challengeable. Courts and tribunals (e.g., via the Traffic Penalty Tribunal) have ruled that signage must follow exact TSRGD formats—stickers alone fail this test.

Images: https://imgpile.com/p/nhdbu2p


Any advice if PCN should be challenged?

Thanks
« Last Edit: November 07, 2025, 03:31:01 pm by CherryPicker »

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Post both sides of the PCN, no redactions.

This is an off-street car park so on-street traffic sign regulation doesn't apply.


No redactions... or post the council pics yourself.


There's no pic of the terms board - that will tell you what they can enforce and should reference an order for off-street car parking.

A close up of the board would be useful.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/PeGqtgn8b9ctAVQD8


I will have to visit this weekend to take a photogragh.
I will then post.
Are any other images or information useful?
I suppose an image of the third bay's sticker.

Is the height of the sticker relevant on the charger in the bay parked - should I measure?

Thanks.

Here is the entrance main sign and close up:

https://imgpile.com/p/LMWoYPN

There is no mention of EV parking or charging.
It is clear there was a sticker on the pole sign at some point and has been removed.
Google Street View and th sign makes this clear.

It could be the sticker on the entrance at one time mentioned EV.

But the penalties text is so small no driver could read it on entry.

Update:
1st bay has a ripped/missing sticker on the charger  (an nin EV car was parked when I parked - cannot see the charger)
2nd bay has no sticker on the charger (was free)
3rd Bay has a ripped sticker on the charge. (Person was leaning against it engrossed on his phone so I could not see the sticker)

The stickers are 90cm from the ground and the sticker is 20cm high.

Empty bays here: 
https://imgpile.com/p/b2pkFmA

A parking supervisor stated:

"Thank you for your email and for taking the time to provide detailed observations regarding the electric vehicle (EV) bays at Holmsdale Road car park.

We are aware that the bay markings have deteriorated over time although are still clear and the signage has been removed or vandalised at this location. Our signage team have been notified and are arranging for the signage and road markings to be reviewed and refreshed to ensure they remain clear.

In the meantime, while enforcement can still be carried out where restrictions are adequately signed, our officers will take a pragmatic approach where signage or markings are unclear or incomplete. Until the improvements are made, we will be monitoring the site to ensure fairness and consistency in enforcement.

To clarify:

Enforcement action can only be taken where the restriction is clear and enforceable.

Temporary or damaged signs that cause ambiguity will be referred for maintenance before enforcement resumes.

Once the signage and markings have been reinstated, only vehicles that are actively charging in an EV bay will be permitted to park there.

We appreciate you bringing this matter to our attention and for highlighting the specific issues with the current signage. Your feedback has been passed to the relevant team for action, and we will ensure the site is inspected and any necessary works scheduled."


This does not mean a PCN will be cancelled!
« Last Edit: November 16, 2025, 01:59:17 pm by CherryPicker »

The exclamations are yours, I assume!

Anyway:
Penalty exceeded ......circumstances of the case;
Procedural impropriety.

Their confusion regarding statutory periods and how to calculate these, where applicable, is amazing. Haven't seen one this bad for some time.

For example, when does the statutory discount payment period end? And the 28-day period 'specified on the front[of the PCN]'. And what is the statutory time limit for making informal reps and the parallel duty on the council to consider. And as for 'if not paid or disputed..', do these officers never keep up to date with tribunal decisions? 

The exclamations are yours, I assume!

Anyway:
Penalty exceeded ......circumstances of the case;
Procedural impropriety.

Their confusion regarding statutory periods and how to calculate these, where applicable, is amazing. Haven't seen one this bad for some time.

For example, when does the statutory discount payment period end? And the 28-day period 'specified on the front[of the PCN]'. And what is the statutory time limit for making informal reps and the parallel duty on the council to consider. And as for 'if not paid or disputed..', do these officers never keep up to date with tribunal decisions?

Yes, the last sentence was mine.

They have stated the colour of the car incorrectly (irrelevant).
The dates for 14-days and 28-days are wrong.
Is this relevant to a successful appeal?
Is the real issue lack of adequate signage?
Should a penalty and reference to a TRO have been displayed?

Why is the, "Penalty exceeded ......circumstances of the case"?  Is it because the entrance sign is silent on the issue?
« Last Edit: November 16, 2025, 07:49:26 pm by CherryPicker »