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Hello Everyone,

I came across this website as I was doing my research on the PCN I received by Harrow Borough.

This location seems to be problematic, and there are few posts and articles online about it.

I have submitted an informal challenge, and it was rejected, and now I have the choice to either pay half of the fine, or challenge it formally and lose the 50% discount.

I have tried to find the cases which drivers won against the council, for the same spot, but I wasn't lucky, can anyone help me locate these? Or tell me where to look?

Additionally, I found another case which was won due to the type of camera, as it wasn't in the approved list of the Secretary of State. How can I check the type of the camera? and how can I match it against that list? is it available to the public?

I would really appreciate your insight/input as I have to make a decision shortly.

Many thanks.

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Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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London Tribunals register is the place to look for appeals but you need to enter the location field carefully usually as per the PCN.

I'm not up to speed on bus lane camera status or other London bus lane issues - others will be.

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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Hello Everyone,

I came across this website as I was doing my research on the PCN I received by Harrow Borough.

This location seems to be problematic, and there are few posts and articles online about it.

I have submitted an informal challenge, and it was rejected, and now I have the choice to either pay half of the fine, or challenge it formally and lose the 50% discount.

I have tried to find the cases which drivers won against the council, for the same spot, but I wasn't lucky, can anyone help me locate these? Or tell me where to look?

Additionally, I found another case which was won due to the type of camera, as it wasn't in the approved list of the Secretary of State. How can I check the type of the camera? and how can I match it against that list? is it available to the public?

I would really appreciate your insight/input as I have to make a decision shortly.

Many thanks.

Well: PCN details  etc would be useful and then speak to me.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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Please find the PCN.

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and my informal challenge:

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Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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and the council response to my informal challenge.

(sorry I had to post them in 3 different replies, as it didn't post in one reply).



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Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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I won a case some months ago re this. Just wait for the Enforcement Notice and I will advise further what play to write.  ;D
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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Hello Hippocrates,

Thank you, I appreciate the help. So you do advise to wait and not pay, correct?

Also, regarding the enforcement, I will be travelling in the next couple of months, what happens if I don't reply promptly as I am travelling?

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Can you share with me the tribunal case number you worked on ?

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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You will have 28 days from the date of service of the EN to make a formal representation which must be done or they will serve a Charge Certificate. So, you had better organise something and sort your dates/commitments put please.

2240103393:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-bus-lane-harrow-northolt-rd-jct-alexandra-ave/msg19438/#msg19438
« Last Edit: December 04, 2024, 10:57:26 am by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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The one with the camera type, correct? Is there a way to check if the council got the approval for the camera type yet? As they might have fixed that by now?


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The one with the camera type, correct? Is there a way to check if the council got the approval for the camera type yet? As they might have fixed that by now?
All councils have now fixed this issue - mostly. Harrow does but whether their evidence will stand up is another matter! See the case won.  Schedule I para. 7(6) and 7(2) is what Mr Teper is referring to. They didn't turn up and the exact camera was not named in the WS.

Certainly: wait for the EN and take it all the way is my advice.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2024, 11:31:40 am by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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I understand, so it would depend if they provide evidence+witness to support their claim.

how about the enforcement issue ? if I am travelling? What should I do? and do they tolerate late reply ?

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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IF they send an Enforcement Notice on the 17th December, I reckon you would HAVE to respond by 15th January at the latest.

If you are away, then ask a friendly neighbour. If not possible, there is another way.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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What's the other way if you don't mind me asking?


Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
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What's the other way if you don't mind me asking?
E mail them and ask them to send it by pdf if you will be away. They must serve a hard copy too.

parking.enforcement@harrow.gov.uk
« Last Edit: December 04, 2024, 01:02:11 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r