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Quote from: anthomy93 on November 05, 2023, 02:27:07 pm
Now waiting for NTO or pay it by Tuesday
@anthomy93 I wouldn't worry about the discount, Waltham Forest usually reoffers it anyway as long as you challenge the NTO within 14 days.

As I have stated above, please could you give us the PCN number and the number plate.
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These are all the letters I’ve received

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In a normal case I would order the suspension logs from the council, as these usually help in parking suspension cases. The council already has the number plate and the PCN number, and if you end up going to the tribunal that information will end up published on the tribunal register at https://londontribunals.org.uk/

By refusing to give us this information, you're only hurting your chances.

Sorry to sound harsh but if you end up losing / having to pay, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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thank you cp8759. I do appreciate the time and input you have given for replying my query.

I don't understand why you need my VRM and PCN ref number when all copies I have received are posted. Contravention code (21) and their reasoning are stated on the pictures provided.

I can post up what the main display shows me of the PCN if that is any help

As I mentioned in a few posts above, I have parked next to the replaced sign, however that sign was identical to the other 9 signs that didn't get replaced for 6 weeks making their signs misleading as far as I could think of it.

Quote from: cp8759 on November 05, 2023, 11:50:57 pm
In a normal case I would order the suspension logs from the council, as these usually help in parking suspension cases. The council already has the number plate and the PCN number, and if you end up going to the tribunal that information will end up published on the tribunal register at https://londontribunals.org.uk/

By refusing to give us this information, you're only hurting your chances.

Sorry to sound harsh but if you end up losing / having to pay, you'll only have yourself to blame.
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Quote from: anthomy93 on November 06, 2023, 06:10:26 am
I don't understand why you need my VRM and PCN ref number when all copies I have received are posted.
For starters I'd like to look at the original PCN photos on the council website, rather than having to rely on your photos of what is already an inferior paper copy.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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