Author Topic: Greenwich Council, Parked wholly or partly in a suspended bay or space, Wellington Street  (Read 500 times)

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Is there a way I can find myself out of this? I dont think I realised that it was complete suspension for the whole road.I now have but a few days to file a statement

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Is that all you're going to tell us ? What happened to the PCN, the Notice to Owner, and the Charge Certificate.

Assuming the PCN was for a parking contravention served under the Traffic Management Act 2004, you can submit a Witness Statement to state several things that you may have not received in the process, but if you just ignored everything, then it's game over, I'm afraid. The form is Form TE9

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e14db38fa8f5649f912647/TE9.pdf

Hello,
It was so long ago, I dont remember what had happened. I do know that I just received this letter, I dont think I received one before that. Is there anything I can do?

Hello,
It was so long ago, I dont remember what had happened. I do know that I just received this letter, I dont think I received one before that. Is there anything I can do?
Of course there is, you submit the Form TE9 I mentioned in my last post.

Hello,
It was so long ago, I dont remember what had happened. I do know that I just received this letter, I dont think I received one before that. Is there anything I can do?
Of course there is, you submit the Form TE9 I mentioned in my last post.
Yes, I know you mentioned, I read that. I was just wondering if someone could have a look at the PCN to see if the contravention did occur so I know exactly what i am going back with. If thats something you're unable to do, that's also okay.
Thank you

Submission of the TE9 will get you back to the PCN stage, because you will tick the box for "I did not receive the penalty charge notice"

Until you get back to the PCN stage, and receive a replacement PCN, you can do nothing at all about the alleged contravention.

What is a puzzle to me is that you received the Order for Recovery with your address on it, yet three previous enforcement documents have gone astray: -

- Original PCN served to the car
- Notice to Owner sent to the address on the V5C Registration Certificate
- Charge Certificate, which adds 50% to the PCN penalty.

Have you had difficulties receiving other mail ? I note it is a flat number, and addresses like this can result in mail going astray, but you've missed both of the postal documents. PCNs served to the car (stuck on the windscreen) often do go astray, hence the Notice to Owner document.

The contravention was 20 June 2024.

It is an offence to say you didn't get the NTO (which is the key document) when you did.


Submission of the TE9 will get you back to the PCN stage, because you will tick the box for "I did not receive the penalty charge notice"

Until you get back to the PCN stage, and receive a replacement PCN, you can do nothing at all about the alleged contravention.

What is a puzzle to me is that you received the Order for Recovery with your address on it, yet three previous enforcement documents have gone astray: -

- Original PCN served to the car
- Notice to Owner sent to the address on the V5C Registration Certificate
- Charge Certificate, which adds 50% to the PCN penalty.

Have you had difficulties receiving other mail ? I note it is a flat number, and addresses like this can result in mail going astray, but you've missed both of the postal documents. PCNs served to the car (stuck on the windscreen) often do go astray, hence the Notice to Owner document.
I did get the original PCN sent to me but I think time had elapsed after this. We have had some serious issues with postal theft in the building but the locks to the post boxes have been changed to less 'universal' keys.

I will send off the TE3 form my email today. Thank you

Submission of the TE9 will get you back to the PCN stage, because you will tick the box for "I did not receive the penalty charge notice"

Until you get back to the PCN stage, and receive a replacement PCN, you can do nothing at all about the alleged contravention.

What is a puzzle to me is that you received the Order for Recovery with your address on it, yet three previous enforcement documents have gone astray: -

- Original PCN served to the car
- Notice to Owner sent to the address on the V5C Registration Certificate
- Charge Certificate, which adds 50% to the PCN penalty.

Have you had difficulties receiving other mail ? I note it is a flat number, and addresses like this can result in mail going astray, but you've missed both of the postal documents. PCNs served to the car (stuck on the windscreen) often do go astray, hence the Notice to Owner document.

Hey, I received the NTO now since filling out the TE9 form which I am now able to challenge. Are there grounds for this?

OK, so with the NtO, you can either pay it, or submit formal representations; if these are rejected, you can take them to London Tribunals, but you have told us littel or nothing about the actual contravention, so for a start, please post the NtO. The statutory grounds for an appeal should be on it.

Please see the NTO here
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If I am totally honest, this was such a long time ago that I don't recall, I do think I was having a panic attack and went to get water for my propranolol medication as that was a particularly stressful period for me. What I do know also is that I definitely did not see a PCN attached to my car even though the picture evidence does show it was affixed to the car, alot of kids in greenwich do this.

Would appreciate any thoughts on how I can avoid this please.

Thank you