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NTK received for allegedly parking in a loading bay with a 'discount' of £80
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I received an NTK for my car allegedly parking in a loading bay. We did not receive a PCN but the council portal shows a picture of the PCN being attached to the windscreen.

In the absence of a PCN, I had to rely on the council portal which shows my car with doors shut and PCN attached. The signs are pictured separately. There is one hazy picture of seemingly my car with the signs but its not clear. More importantly none of the pictures are timestamped.

I sent an initial challenge relying on absence of PCN, unclear pictures and non-timestamped pictures. The council have offered the usual 'discount' of £80 if payment is made within 14 days.

If I decide to appeal to London tribunals what are the areas of weakness of the allegation of breaches should I focus on?

https://ibb.co/PZ0K429y
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2025, 10:37:44 am by ashthemash »
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Re: NTK received for allegedly parking in a loading bay with a 'discount' of £80
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Post the NTO.

The signage looks clear and you were 10 minutes before the end of the loading restriction.

Pictures aren't needed to enforce parking PCNs but are routinely taken to avoid disputes, not always successfully.
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Thank you for your reply. Appreciate it. Here is the NTO:

https://ibb.co/tTc4SgY3
https://ibb.co/FPRssPW


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The date of the NTO is 18 July so now you are way beyond the deadline to make reps or pay.

But is the NTO in your name.
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Any reason for not dealing with the NtO within the allowed period ? When did it arrive ? The 28 days starts with date of service, which is when you received it in the post
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I did respond to the NTK in time but my challenge was declined. That letter is attached above as last link on the first post.
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Quote from: Incandescent on September 12, 2025, 12:36:58 pm
Any reason for not dealing with the NtO within the allowed period ? When did it arrive ? The 28 days starts with date of service, which is when you received it in the post

I have responded to the NTO in time and they have declined my initial appeal, please see the last link on the first post, for the letter.
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Ah sorry I didn't read your post properly and was fooled by 'initial challenge'.

As they reoffered the discount which, increasingly, some authorities aren't doing for lost windscreen PCNs, may mean they are not confident.

However if the £80 is still on offer you should consider it I think.

Here?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/S68Fvj15UHC9yCFC6

« Last Edit: September 12, 2025, 01:00:21 pm by stamfordman »
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Yes, i think this is the place.
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Quote from: stamfordman on September 12, 2025, 12:54:55 pm
Ah sorry I didn't read your post properly and was fooled by 'initial challenge'.

As they reoffered the discount which, increasingly, some authorities aren't doing for lost windscreen PCNs, may mean they are not confident.

However if the £80 is still on offer you should consider it I think.

Here?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/S68Fvj15UHC9yCFC6



Yes, £80 discount is still available. Thank you
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Post the whole of their rejection. It should contain mandatory info as regards your options. Appeals have been won on procedural irregularities at this stage even when the contravention is proved.

Yes, £80 discount is still available. Thank you

If it is then as regards the NOR it probably expires today in the best case. Their NOR was served on 29th August and therefore would have to say 'within 14 days of the date of service'.....


..but this is the part of the NOR we've not seen!
« Last Edit: September 12, 2025, 03:54:53 pm by H C Andersen »
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Probably a little too late now, but here is the full rejection letter. I think i have until midnight before the £80 'discount' expires.

https://ibb.co/jP2463yn
https://ibb.co/Q3gdF720
https://ibb.co/Fq3j5Z1n
https://ibb.co/cSP7Y84C
https://ibb.co/XkXvWLZL
https://ibb.co/xKjz3pMk
https://ibb.co/sJ69PwXW
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