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Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Thank you will post as above, should I send hard copy and electronic ?
Thanks Archie

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Could someone square this circle pl:

If 'The DVLA record confirms that I acquired the car on the 30th June 2025.' then why/how was the council given your details by DVLA as being the RK on the date of the contravention?



Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Could someone square this circle pl:

If 'The DVLA record confirms that I acquired the car on the 30th June 2025.' then why/how was the council given your details by DVLA as being the RK on the date of the contravention?
Who knows? Let Ealing enlighten us.

I can imagine how it might have happened, but thus far there is no firm evidence. And there may never be.

On the other hand the OP has a V5c issued on the 10th July that says he acquired the vehicle on the 30th June and that is firm evidence. So let Ealing refute it if they can.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 10:13:44 am by Enceladus »

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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If the council were provided with the OP's details by DVLA as being the registered keeper on the relevant date then IMO the burden is the OP's not the council's.

Acquiring a vehicle and being the registered keeper are not necessarily related. A person could be the RK but not own a vehicle(V5C is not a certificate of ownership) and vice-versa. 

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Thank you will post as above, should I send hard copy and electronic ?
Thanks Archie

Use the "Make a Challenge/Representation option on the online form on the Ealing website to submit. Once for each PCN although you could x-ref both PCNs to each other in the text of the challenges.

Take screen prints of what you submit. The entire pages, so scroll down if needs be. And don't forget to upload a PDF scan or JPEG photos of the new V5c.

I don't know about Ealing in particular but I would expect that you should get emailed acknowledgements within minutes.

So you shouldn't need to submit hard copies.

@ Archie
I also suggest that you email a Subject Access Request to the DVLA. Fill in the form and then attach to an email to the address provided. See the instructions at the bottom of the form.

Ask the DVLA for copies of any requests made for the Registered Keeper's details together with the dates, times and means by which they were received.

And ask for copies of the responses the DVLA supplied and their dates, times and means of transmission.

I doubt if they'll give you anything in respect of dates prior to the 30th June 2025. But let's see what you get back.

« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 01:04:31 pm by Enceladus »

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Hi,many thanks to date but a slight update.. on the 23 July i was blue lighted to hospital with a heart attack, within 36 hours had stent and balloon inserted at 09.30 hrs and was back home that evening and never felt better .
so on with the saga,

I received several more tickets and duly responded and received near instant acknowledgment from Ealing,when no more arrived ( since the vehicle was up here with me ) I just mailed of hard copies of it back to Ealing.
I have uploaded a copy of the list sent with references.

I did as you suggested ref; dvla and enclosed is what came back from them ,as a side note I asked and received full info held on my licence, nice to see nil points and that I passed my test or one of several back in 1970 .....

Picks to upload  in a minute

archie

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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1st 3 picks

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Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Looking at those DVLA logs it seems to me that Ealing are using the same dates for the date of RK request and the date of the "event". And all have reference "test001".

Conversely the entries for TFL ULEZ and Westminster show that the the date of the event is prior to the date of request. And they all have unique reference numbers. EG Westminster was a parking PCN on the 19/06/2025. When that wasn't paid or challenged then Westminster requested the RK details on the 17/07/2025. So four weeks have elapsed before the DVLA RK request, as would be expected. The RK request is made on the first day following the 28 day relevant period.

Because Ealing's requests are all made in July and the dates of "event" are the same as the requests, then this means that the DVLA would have returned your name and address as RK for the 30th June 2025 and onwards.

How many more PCNs did you receive? Please post up a list.

Please confirm you have no Westminster NTOs or TFL ULEZ PCNs?

You need to make sure that you challenge all of the NTOs within the time limits. You will likely have to appeal all of them to the independent adjudicator.

Stick to your guns. You purchased the car on the 30th June, that is the date you acquired the vehicle on the DVLA record and you were not the owner or Registered Keeper prior to the 30th of June. And you are not responsible for PCNs that predate the 30th June.

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Thanks for that,
Confirming that the first list I posted up are all the nto.s I have received and all were replied within a day or two of receipt and were acknowledged  by ealing as shown above..
Nothing else received
Thanks

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Just to update,so far have received 7 letters accepting what I have stated and cancelling the tickets, 3 wanting more information  and a few no reply yet..

Funny how the same car parked in virtually the same place on consecutive days can have some tickets cancelled and a few not ?

I will post up a picky of one of each at the end of the week,

Thanks for help so far

archie

Re: notice to owner (ealing)
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Enceladus, thank you for you support and responces .

After receiving several acceptances  we did write to the council and worded it as if speaking to a minor with little grasp of english and even less ability to deduce what happened, they also stated that as this referes to multiple tickets each will have to dealt with idividually,
 
They had coppies of all 11 so still decided to to investigate each one inspite of same car ,same location ,consecutive days, nothing has changed.

As said, up to the council to proove I was the owner/keeper on the days in question, as for the comment that the dvla gave me as the keeper on the dates in question, nobody stated that , the dvla gave me as the keepr from a date after the tickets were incured, folk including those at Ealing have assumed I kept it prior to dvla records.

I am now going to attempt to find the address of the seller and engage with the applicable authorities, we have insurance ,v.e.d,Ulez and parking tickets