Author Topic: Barnet Council - 31J Stopping in Box Junction - Edgware Bus Station Entrance (northbound)  (Read 511 times)

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this is a bus garage
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Mick, you are a very, very bad man

this is a bus garage

Sorry, I was thinking of another thread.

However, the link I gave https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/1-the-box is relevant.

We have had cases here, notably https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-lewisham-yellow-box-junction/msg36163/#msg36163

where unfortunately in case 2240118506 Michael Burke widened the definition of junction:
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I note that case reference 2090257179 was decided under Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002. This PCN is enforced under Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016. I am satisfied that the box junction is in place to facilitate buses exiting from the bus station opposite and that in these circumstances a wide interpretation should be given to the requirement that it be ‘at a junction between two or more roads’.

The yellowboxes site also quotes cases in support of the argument against YBJs outside bus stations:
2220655535  2200134664 (In full at https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/illegal-box-appeals  )
and against 2230528614

So it would appear that an adjudicator's ruling against YBJ outside a bus garage is probable, it is by no means certain.

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EDIT:

Looking at GSV - https://maps.app.goo.gl/yvLF25zKTpTJ5TVh6 and virtually moving into the 'bus station,

it would appear that vehicles (and pedestrians) have unfettered access to the 'bus station, which I feel makes it a road and thus this box is at a junction of two or more roads, and far harder to argue that this is not a road.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2024, 11:06:26 am by John U.K. »