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Re: Newham parking ticket
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You shouldn't have to exhibit anything - an adjudicator who doesn't know the fundamentals of CPZs and parking places is not fit to be on the panel IMO.


Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #31 on: »
Can we please have a look at the Council's case summary
&
your "skeleton".
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Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #32 on: »
Here is the review decision - 2250149506


I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.
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Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #33 on: »
Very well done ! So this would seem to drive a coach and horses through a lot of councils enforcement of Event Zones.

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #34 on: »
Brilliant result, you was like a dog with a bone you never gave up, Thank you a 1000 times over

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #35 on: »
Very well done ! So this would seem to drive a coach and horses through a lot of councils enforcement of Event Zones.

This one is about the fundamental point of a parking bay with no sign. It just happened to have been on an event day.

If the tribunal is using new adjudicators it really needs to give them basic training.

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #36 on: »
Well done.

IMO, I don't think this changes anything about the understanding of parking place (not bay) signage (other than for Gerald Mohabir): every parking place must be signed in accordance with the council traffic order or the TSRGD whichever is the more onerous*. When permitted by the regs, signs may include permitted parking expressions and when these refer to 'match days' or similar those days may be displayed other than on the sign itself e.g. 'controlled parking zone' gateway signs when located within a zone etc. The legal test remains LATOR (surprised this wasn't mentioned in the review decision).

As regards permitted variants of 'controlled' the situation might be different as alluded to by there reviewing adjudicator.

*- Cambell v Camden for background.

According to the Chief Adjudicator's reports Gerald Mohabir has been in post for at least 3 years....which means that he might be due his three-yearly appraisal!

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Annual%20report%20202324.pdf

Part 4, Training and Appraisal  page 18.    ;D
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Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #37 on: »
Although we won this case (2250149506, Iv been unsuccessful at getting my £130 back, 3 emails and an online inquiry form, and still nothing, you can’t get any worse than Newham

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #38 on: »
Have you spoken to the Tribunal about the reviewing Adjudicator's directions of 30th June being ignored?

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As there was no evidence from which the Adjudicator could find that the restriction relied on was correctly signed I find that it is in the interest s of justice that the decision be reviewed and I substitute a decision allowing the Appeal

Does Newham have an online status/history for the PCN?
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Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #39 on: »
I had a great tip for who I should email, so I sent an email and will give it a bit more time to see what happens.

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #40 on: »
Oh you tease....

..do share!
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Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #41 on: »
I gave Jill the parking manager's email.
I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #42 on: »
Now that his covers blown  :D, Iv received a reply from the parking manager,

 
Thank you for your email however, I have no remit regarding penalty charge notices so I have copied in colleagues from the ENV – Parking Enquiries team who will be able to assist you here
 
 
But id previously emailed the ENV 3 times, oh well let’s see how it goes,

Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #43 on: »
This situation comes about because the Enforcement Authority, in this case Newham, is not routinely informed when a request for review is submitted by the appellant.

You have 14 days to submit a review request. And it maybe a further 4-6 weeks before the "request" is scheduled. If the request is granted the appeal is reheard immediately. But it can also be adjourned.

All this means that in the meantime the EA's enforcement machine carries on automatically, if you haven't paid the penalty within 28 days as specified in the original Tribunal decision. The enforcement process has not been put on hold. And can escalate to the Charge Certificate and Order for Recovery stages. So my standard advice is to submit a review request, where it is possible and to also pay the penalty, then seek a refund if you prevail at review, as you have done.

As I recall the advice to pay the original tribunal decision before any review has been heard was also on the LT website, but I can't find it now.

However Newham seem to have no procedures in place to deal with successful reviews when the decision notice lands in their inbox. Reviews are very rare and successful reviews are even rarer.

The fastest way to resolve this seems to be to email the London Tribunals, FAO the Chief Adjudicator, and copied to the Council's CEO and Chief Legal Officers. Ask the Chief Adjudicator to write to the other two to  remind them of their legal duty to comply with the order of Adjudicator ???? made on the dd/mm/yy cancelling PCN nnnnnnnn and to arrange immediate refund of the amount already paid.

Doing so provoked very quick responses from the Council on several occasions, followed by the money. However in one case it took over 30 days for the money to arrive in the appellants account.

rachel.mckoy@newham.gov.uk is the Director of Law & Governance - resigning in September
Paul Martin is the newly appointed Interim Chief Executive - at a guess paul.martin@newham.gov.uk

queries@londontribunals.org.uk


   



Re: Newham parking ticket
« Reply #44 on: »
Thank you very much, I will let you know the outcome