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Merton - Failing To Comply With Restriction, Merton, Garfield rd

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#1
I drove down Tennyson rd towards Garfield Rd to pick up my grandchildren from school. As I got to the junction I checked left to see if it was safe to turn, I then turned into Garfield Rd and saw the signs but at this point it was to late to break and reverse. It was a genuine mistake and now I would like to appeal this fine. How can I be expected to concentrate on the road plus avoiding this pedestrian zone. Please help with appeal.

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#3
GSV for July 2022 on Tennyson Road shows this yellow, non-traffic warning sign at the T-junction.  This is the only warning sign shown, so a this view is four years ago, is it still there, or are there better, and more advanced signs as one approaches the T-junction ? My view is that the yellow sign is inadequate to warn of the restriction.

Needless to say, Merton will reject all your reps, and cleverly re-offer the discount to encourage you to pay-up. They, like all the other London councils, ruthlessly game the system to maximise the cash flow, knowing that few people are willing to risk the full penalty at London Tribunals.
#5
Yes this is still the same only one yellow sign at bottom.
The restriction is right on the T-junction with Tennyson Road, so one would expect a motorist approaching on that road to be advised by a traffic sign that there is a restriction for the right turn. If the only sign is that yellow sign, then in my view the signage of the restriction is inadequate, and you should submit representations on that basis. Councils have a duty under Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 to erect adequate signage.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18

Note the two key words are "traffic signs" meaning signs as found in The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016, not something cheap, thought up by an officer in the council.
#7
A shame I did not see this earlier as there is a big problem with their website.
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#9
Please advise? I can add additional appeal grounds?
Also with the above inadequate non 'traffic' signage appeal grounds what is the likely of win at tribunal? Has previous cases been won on these grounds?
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@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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What did you say?
@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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