Author Topic: TFL - Being in a bus lane - Location: A406 N Circular W-BND Chequers Way Green Lanes  (Read 81 times)

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Mazda3

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I received PCN today for being in the bus lane, the reason I entered the bus lane this was to access the free parking on the curb further ahead on the left where the cars are parked. I was parked there for a few hours while visiting a friend and left later that day via the same bus lane. I have used this bus lane many times over the years to park on the curb as it is the only way to access their driveway and this is the first time receiving a ticket for this.

Attached below are the letters:
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This should be the street view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qypC1aHTWHyyNJis6

I have seen another post recently that is very similar to my case which may be of help: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-bus-lane-pcn-a406-green-lanes/

Thank you for reading and I am looking forward to your replies.

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Mazda3

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I have attached the dashcam footage of this incident where I am looking for parking on the left and have to pass some bays as they are either disabled bays or blocking driveways: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n95rnyzsprdlyn6xoege4/20250329_142629Front.mov?rlkey=f43kfwwbqy4p8bggcxmz09iyf&st=c9nox7n5&dl=0
« Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 05:20:30 pm by Mazda3 »

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Frankly, I think you will struggle because you drive in the bus lane for a considerable distance. Why didn't you just turn into a space of the open carriageway. It does have all the hallmarks of somebody not wanting to tootle along in the open lane with the other traffic, but speed things up by using the bus lane. Tell me I'm wrong, but that is what is looks like !!

Also, can you call TfL and ask for the video of the incident. This puts a 2 week freeze into the process, and also a recent case was won at LondonTribunals because the appellant said he had no means of viewing the DVD before attending the hearing as no modern PCs have DVD readers anymore. TfL are in age of the Ark, I'm afraid, but now it has come back to bit them, at last !

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I have a technical appeal re the wording. Please search similar TFL bus lane posts.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Frankly, I think you will struggle because you drive in the bus lane for a considerable distance. Why didn't you just turn into a space of the open carriageway. It does have all the hallmarks of somebody not wanting to tootle along in the open lane with the other traffic, but speed things up by using the bus lane. Tell me I'm wrong, but that is what is looks like !!

Also, can you call TfL and ask for the video of the incident. This puts a 2 week freeze into the process, and also a recent case was won at LondonTribunals because the appellant said he had no means of viewing the DVD before attending the hearing as no modern PCs have DVD readers anymore. TfL are in age of the Ark, I'm afraid, but now it has come back to bit them, at last !

Thank you for your reply!
That's fair enough, I thought it was fine to use the lane if I am going to park on the left. However as you said it would have been more appropriate to use the middle lane and only pull in to the bus lane when I had to.
Do know where I can find the rules regarding using the bus lane to park so that I don't make the same mistake again? I have seen rules for taxi and private hire vehicles but not for normal drivers.

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@Mazda3 Hang on a minute. Have you looked for my technical arguments? We always fight bus lane tickets on here. I have not lost one yet in 3 years.

I would use this, tweaked accordingly:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-bus-lane-contravention-n-circular-rd-btw-chequers-way-green-lanes/msg30167/#msg30167
« Last Edit: April 13, 2025, 01:58:42 pm by Hippocrates »
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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@Hippocrates Thank you for the draft! I have adjusted and submitted it on the TFL website. I will update when I hear back from them.

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@Hippocrates Here is the response I have received from TFL.
https://imgur.com/a/FXHnZV9
I have no way of viewing the DVD without purchasing a DVD player as my laptop does not have a DVD drive.
Could you please advise what I should do next?

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Wait for the Enforcement Notice.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899