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Newark & Sherwood Cuncil operate Newark Lorry Park and so they are exercising their powers under section 32, 34 and Part IV of Schedule 9 of the road traffic regulations act 1984 and under traffic management act 2004 to recover all costs... is what the letter says.

One of our vehicles parked there overnight and believed they had paid for parking with a company fuel card. The Lorry Park advertise this as a valid payment method, however the company cards are set up only to allow fuel purchases. So, it has declined. However, the receipt it spat out looks like a valid receipt to the driver and to me.

I have attached the NtO and the attached invoice and a picture of my appeals, and their responses.

My concern is there was no evidence attached to the notice or any evidence online, infact there was nowhere to login online to see the PCN or pay online, and no information on appealing and I have had no option for independent adjudication presented, is this right? It doesn't seem right to me.

They are also basically accusing the driver of fraud, but I see no evidence that he attempted to defraud anyone besides their word.

Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏


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This is a parking charge notice and seems to be issued as a private parking invoice. It is not a civil penalty charge notice.

Maybe belongs in the private parking section.

Their letter mentions the Traffic Management Act 2004, but as far as I know, this is of no relevance to the serving of Parking Charge Notices.

The May 14th Notice says at the top "Notice to Owner". I would expect it to say Notice to Keeper if this is a Parking Charge Notice.

That said, the text of the letter says it's a Parking Charge Notice more than once.

The County of Nottinghamshire was designated:
(a)a civil enforcement area for parking contraventions; and
(b)a special enforcement area
In 2008. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/1086/made

Newark is not mentioned in the schedule of exceptions. And neither is the lorry/coach park.

Shouldn't the TMA 2004 protocols and regulations be followed?



https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Newark%20and%20Sherwood/KQ004.pdf

Newark Lorry Park is item CE015 in col. 1 of the Schedule to Part X of the Order which came into effect on 7 April 2025.

'Penalty Charges' are dealt with in Part VII - as a subject it's not necessary to include in an order made under the referenced powers, but there we are!

The Order was in effect when the contravention occurred. (OP, don't blank out dates)

The letter is b******s.

https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Newark%20and%20Sherwood/KQ004.pdf

Newark Lorry Park is item CE015 in col. 1 of the Schedule to Part X of the Order which came into effect on 7 April 2025.

'Penalty Charges' are dealt with in Part VII - as a subject it's not necessary to include in an order made under the referenced powers, but there we are!

The Order was in effect when the contravention occurred. (OP, don't blank out dates)

The letter is b******s.

Surely it must still include statutory appeal rights and instructions and explain the rights under the TMA 2004? Also, VAT is not chargeable on Penalty Charge Notices because they are considered fines. Is it a statutory penalty or not, i'm confused?


https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Newark%20and%20Sherwood/KQ004.pdf

Newark Lorry Park is item CE015 in col. 1 of the Schedule to Part X of the Order which came into effect on 7 April 2025.

'Penalty Charges' are dealt with in Part VII - as a subject it's not necessary to include in an order made under the referenced powers, but there we are!

The Order was in effect when the contravention occurred. (OP, don't blank out dates)

The letter is b******s.

Surely it must still include statutory appeal rights and instructions and explain the rights under the TMA 2004? Also, VAT is not chargeable on Penalty Charge Notices because they are considered fines. Is it a statutory penalty or not, i'm confused?
Well, yes indeed, but they have actually served you with an unlawful demand for money, because the order has been in force since 7th April 2025 which replaced their previous arrangements.

Clearly in this council, it takes a very long time for new parking arrangements to filter down the hierarchical pyramid ! Whoever this person is that has been responding to you, he is totally ignorant of the enforcement arrangements that should be operating in this car park.

So I would respond to their "Notice to Owner" pointing out that they seem to be operating under two separate sets of incompatible laws and regulations. Point out that if they were operating under the Traffic Management Act 2004, you should have received a Penalty Charge Notice that the law mandates must contain a fixed set of information. Their Parking Charge Notice does not, so if anybody is committing fraud, it must be the council by issuing unlawful demands for money.

You might also consider making an official complaint to the council.

The sheer stupidity that we see nowadays in councils beggars belief.


Surely it must still include statutory appeal rights and instructions and explain the rights under the TMA 2004? Also, VAT is not chargeable on Penalty Charge Notices because they are considered fines. Is it a statutory penalty or not, i'm confused?
Well, yes indeed, but they have actually served you with an unlawful demand for money, because the order has been in force since 7th April 2025 which replaced their previous arrangements.

Clearly in this council, it takes a very long time for new parking arrangements to filter down the hierarchical pyramid ! Whoever this person is that has been responding to you, he is totally ignorant of the enforcement arrangements that should be operating in this car park.

So I would respond to their "Notice to Owner" pointing out that they seem to be operating under two separate sets of incompatible laws and regulations. Point out that if they were operating under the Traffic Management Act 2004, you should have received a Penalty Charge Notice that the law mandates must contain a fixed set of information. Their Parking Charge Notice does not, so if anybody is committing fraud, it must be the council by issuing unlawful demands for money.

You might also consider making an official complaint to the council.

The sheer stupidity that we see nowadays in councils beggars belief.
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I replied saying:

"Hi Brian,

It appears you’re suggesting that the driver knowingly tried to avoid payment. If that is the case, I would expect the council to be able to evidence this intent clearly.

I fully understand that you cannot entrap a vehicle. However, knowingly allowing a driver to exit the site without informing them that the receipt is invalid knowing this would lead to a penalty also has the effect of entrapment and does not support fair enforcement.

From your correspondence, it is unclear whether this charge is issued under civil enforcement powers as set out in Traffic Management Act 2004 (TMA 2004) or as a contractual private notice.

If it is issued under the TMA 2004, I must remind you of your obligations under Schedule 1 to provide a formal Notice to Owner, which informs and allows statutory representations, and if rejected, provide the right to appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. No such documentation or legal process has been followed.

Instead, your communications threaten debt collection, which is not permitted under TMA enforcement without a court-issued Order for Recovery. This cannot be issued without following the legal steps: NtO, Representations, NoR, Adjudicator appeal, Charge Certificate, Order for Recovery, then bailiff enforcement (not “debt collection” like a private operator would threaten).

I also note that the charge you have issued includes VAT. Under TMA 2004 PCNs are civil penalties and as such are exempt from VAT. This makes it look like a private contractual charge and not a civil penalty.

If it is instead issued under private contract law, I dispute the debt on the grounds that:

1. There was a genuine attempt to pay, as supported by the receipt and information provided, showing good faith on our part.
2. I have offered to pay the full parking charge, which you declined.
3. The Notice to Owner, which should surely be a Penalty Charge Notice under TMA 2004, not a Parking Charge Notice, fails to make it clear whether operated under public or private enforcement.

I therefore request either:

• A formal rejection notice with access to adjudication (if it is indeed TFA enforcement), or
• Written confirmation that the charge is cancelled.
 

Any further enforcement or reference to “debt collection” without observing the correct statutory process will be reported to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, the Local Government Ombudsman as well as a formal complaint to Newark & Sherwood District Council.

 

Regards"

So, you've responded to their letter which they title a Notice to Owner, yes?


So, you've responded to their letter which they title a Notice to Owner, yes?


Hi, yes, so a receipt had been handed in to us for the parking with the drivers paperwork. I couldn't find how to appeal as there is no information on doing so. So, I emailed the email address on the NtO letter with the receipt attached.

The third picture I have attached on my post is the email chain. I thought the letter was odd (as in it doesn't appear to be either a private parking charge notice or a council penalty charge notice) but I have had 2 others from them in the past that I recall and I sent in the receipt and that was the end of the matter. This time, that was not the case, and the dude is essentially accusing the driver of intentionally defrauding them and threatening additional charges and debt collections if it's not paid.

I see that the "Notice" of May 14th implies that a contravention of the Newark and Sherwood District Council Parking Order 2022 occurred. I can't find that order. Perhaps they mean the 2025 order?
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The letter gives you 14 days to pay the £70 demanded. That should be 28 days for a TMA2004 PCN.

You've redacted the dates and times from the May 14th letter. What are they?

I see that the "Notice" of May 14th implies that a contravention of the Newark and Sherwood District Council Parking Order 2022 occurred. I can't find that order. Perhaps they mean the 2025 order?
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The letter gives you 14 days to pay the £70 demanded. That should be 28 days for a TMA2004 PCN.

You've redacted the dates and times from the May 14th letter. What are they?

It was some time in the evening of 5th May to morning of 6th May that the vehicle was parked.
And the invoice date was 16th May to be paid by today, 30th May.

Didn't even notice the 2022, but yeah it seems that was revoked by the 2024 amendment which has since been revoked by the implementation of the 2025 version.

"66. The Newark and Sherwood District Council (Off Street Parking Places) Order 2024 is revoked as from the date this Order comes into operation and any variations thereto attached to these orders are revoked in their entirety as from the date this Order comes into operation" lol these people just get worse and worse

What an utterly useless and incompetent council ! Cretins doesn't have sufficient impact as a word to describe this lot.

I think it is time for a complaint to be made to the CEO of this council asking what statutory enforcement process is in use at the Newark Lorry Park.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2025, 10:52:40 pm by Incandescent »

OP, if you're going to complain then, with respect, you don't ask questions.


Dear Sir,
Newark and Sherwood District Council(Civil Enforcement Off-Street Parking Places) Order 2025

As you will be aware, the above order came into effect on 7 April 2025. However, what I suspect you do not know is that your council is still operating under some previous unregulated hybrid regime and I enclose a copy of correspondence which I have received in respect of an alleged parking contravention which occurred on ** May 2025 which illustrates this point.

Although I have responded to this correspondence, as your officers have not followed the law to date, namely they have disregarded the Order, I have no confidence in their ability to comprehend the issues, admit their error and cease whatever enforcement they might have had in mind. Hence I am writing to you both for myself and any other motorists who might have received similar unlawful demands from the council.

I await your confirmation that my 'penalty' charge has been cancelled and that you will address the current shortcomings.


Yours...l


OP, if you're going to complain then, with respect, you don't ask questions.


Dear Sir,
Newark and Sherwood District Council(Civil Enforcement Off-Street Parking Places) Order 2025

As you will be aware, the above order came into effect on 7 April 2025. However, what I suspect you do not know is that your council is still operating under some previous unregulated hybrid regime and I enclose a copy of correspondence which I have received in respect of an alleged parking contravention which occurred on ** May 2025 which illustrates this point.

Although I have responded to this correspondence, as your officers have not followed the law to date, namely they have disregarded the Order, I have no confidence in their ability to comprehend the issues, admit their error and cease whatever enforcement they might have had in mind. Hence I am writing to you both for myself and any other motorists who might have received similar unlawful demands from the council.

I await your confirmation that my 'penalty' charge has been cancelled and that you will address the current shortcomings.


Yours...l

That sounds like a good idea. But who should I be complaining to?