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Hi everyone,

not even sure how to start this, but yesterday I got 3 PCN's in the post from Haringey for failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle. 52(M).

From the pictures I could tell straight away it wasn't my car. Similar make and model, but not mine. We've never driven down these roads on the days in question, either.

A week earlier I got a letter from a private parking firm, TNC, representing P4Parking. Alledging that I parked at HMP Thameside on 18/05/2024, I believe its a prison. We've definately have NOT been there. At the time I assumed TNC made a mistake, since they're a private parking company.

So it seems they've been driving around with my plates since at least March.

Now it turns out my plates have been cloned, and I am super stressed. I've reported it to the police already and have a CAD number.

I want to post the PCN pictures here, but I don't want whoever cloned it to come across this post, and make changes so that it matches my car even more. There are certain indicators which show its not my car.

I did a cursory search on this site, and it seems someone else had the same cloned plate issues around the Haringey area. Could it be the same person? What can be done to catch this scumbag?

I just feel super stressed over this. I've been advised to put an identifying sticker on my car, any advice?

+1 @Incandescent

Are you from the London area?

You may wish to take some pre-emptive action by phoning TfL and LB Haringey to see if there are any more PCNs outstanding against your reg.mark.

If the PCNs are from May alleged offences , what makes you think the cloning began in March?

Please post up the dates of the LBH PCNs and a draft of your proposed representations.

Searching this forum with 'cloned' as the search term (top r-h cornerof this page) produces a number of other cloning cases which it may be helpful to read through in p[reparing your own reps..

This is the thread for the private ticket
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/

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A week earlier I got a letter from a private parking firm, TNC, representing P4Parking. Alledging that I parked at HMP Thameside on 18/05/2024, I believe its a prison. We've definately have NOT been there. At the time I assumed TNC made a mistake, since they're a private parking company.
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I suggest you start a second thread in the Private Parking Tickets forum to deal with this particular ticket. Handle it separately.

Let this forum deal with the Haringey PCNs.

"02/07/2024 - 06:34 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
02/07/2024 - 13:00 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
02/07/2024 - 14:57 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)"

Please expand your list to include the five new PCNs. Also for all eight please state the date of contravention and the date of the postal Penalty Charge Notices.

Also are the alleged contraventions all at the same location and the same contravention as the first three?

"02/07/2024 - 06:34 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
02/07/2024 - 13:00 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
02/07/2024 - 14:57 - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)"

Please expand your list to include the five new PCNs. Also for all eight please state the date of contravention and the date of the postal Penalty Charge Notices.

Also are the alleged contraventions all at the same location and the same contravention as the first three?

I've been busy with work, so I've not had a chance to update everything. I am back now.

They are at different places, I will update the list, with the locations etc included, and perhaps some photos of the PCN.

Have you made any progress towards a draft representation?

Also I couldn't see anything here
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/

about your HMP ticket?

I will post in the private parking tickets section now.

I've got a draft based on what you helped Danger_B with.

Draft below:

RE: Penalty Charge Notice xxxxxxxx
Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to make representations against the Penalty Charge Notice xxxxxx, issued against my alleged vehicle. Registration number LK56CSZ on 02/07/2024 at Sperling Road N17.

I have had an influx of such fines from Haringey council. So far 8 in total.

They are all around the same area, in Haringey.

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[insert details of other fines here]

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The vehicle is clearly not my vehicle and the number-plate has been cloned. I have reported the cloning of my vehicle’s number plates to the police.

Please find the following information and evidence to support my claim:

Grounds for Appeal:
I have reported the suspected cloning of my vehicle’s nu,ber plates to the police. The crime reference number for this report is CAD xxxxxxx. The police have confirmed that they will update the Police national Computer with this report and advise that my number plates have been cloned.

additionally , I have ben advised by the police to inform the issuing authority and provide any evidence that it was not my vehicle involved in the alleged contravention. My vehicle was not at the location of the alleged contravention at the time stated.

Supporting Evidence:
I have attached photos of the cloned car, and my car for comparison's sake. Though they are both of similar models, they can still be told apart.

Okay. I will post then, need to take pics of my car tomorrow afternoon.

Okay. I will post then, need to take pics of my car tomorrow afternoon.

It may be worth highlighting and describing the differences. Make it as easy as possible for them to see it is a different vehicle.

Only you have seen the photos. Is it definitely a clone rather than a misread.

It may be worth considering asking DVLA for a replacement reg.

OP, IMO your situation is not standard. You need to engage with the authority(ies) ASP.

Give them what you've got. Don't second-guess what they might also want and delay making contact while you look for it. Engage and explain. Say that you anticipate that they might want further evidence in which case would they please let you know and place final determination of your reps on hold until they're satisfied.

I'll respond to your private parking in that forum.