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We have another case here that is much more clear cut. These are strictly no stopping contraventions. The bus stop clearway puts you on notice as such and the sign seals the deal.

In your case you may get away with persuading an adjudicator you were engaged in a driving manoeuvre as there was a bit of yellow line ahead and you couldn't squeeze in.

But what was your representation?  There is no informal stage with this.

Other case:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-council-pcn-stopping-in-a-restricted-bus-stop-dulwich-road/

Also, Would you mind me asking if in your views is it worth taking the chance of putting up an apeal or better to just pay up. i.e. if you were in my shoes, would you appeal? I am usually minded to appeal by default but frankly quite unaware of the precedence here. Thanks again.

To be honest, I don't even remember. I don't usually drive on this road often. I did ask in my representation for the council to furnish the video before, as its only part video but they did not. My guess is that I perhaps wanted to park in the box ahead before a late realisation that there was not much space, or realised the sign board of "No stopping" too late before I was in that lane.

Thanks v much for sharing your thoughts and prompt responses. As I think more, I am inclined to take my case to the tribunal. Here are my additional arguments - I understand the no-stop rules, but this is how I see it:

1) Are the rules for bus-stop same as yellow zig-zag lines that you enter this box only when you have a clear passage ahead and can exit promptly without stopping for any reason? If yes, then I am indeed in breach. But I don't believe they are the same because when a similar bus-stop is on a single lane of road, clearly you are allowed to stop in the box due to traffic ahead. So, you can stop on the bus-stop due to onwards traffic or driving manoeuvre.

2) Similar or more strict "No-stop" conditions apply on red (or double red) lines, but you can still temporarily stop for similar reasons as above due to onwards traffic or driving manoeuvre. No?

As you can see from the video, I only stopped due to the incoming traffic which did not allow me to continue ahead. I was clearly in the wrong lane, which I am presuming was me trying to park ahead before realizing not enough space and then the traffic did not allow me to move ahead.

I might be wrong here, but open to hear if you disagree as that would give me insight into how the adjudicator may take my arguments.

Ah, that gives me more confidence. Thanks again. Will update the post on how I progress with the next stage for the benefit of others in future.

I have only just joined this thread. What were your reps and appeal details?

Well you stopped engaging with us so we couldn't advise on your appeal. 

But it appears they've pasted in the wrong decision or adjudicated the wrong case - what exactly happened?

What is in Lambeth's evidence pack?

It looks like asking for a review is the way to go.

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Case Details
Case reference 2240558779
Appellant Sandeep Goel
Authority London Borough of Lambeth
VRM KN64WNU
PCN Details
PCN LJ31265469
Contravention date 16 Oct 2024
Contravention time 14:50:00
Contravention location Dulwich Road
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand
Referral date -
Decision Date 29 Jan 2025
Adjudicator Henry Michael Greenslade
Appeal decision Appeal refused
Direction Full penalty charge notice amount stated to be paid within 28 days.
Reasons
This is one of several appeals I am considering together arising out of Penalty Charge Notices issued in respect of the same vehicle, on different occasions.

A contravention can occur if a vehicle is driven so as to fail to comply with a prohibition on certain vehicles.

There appears to be no dispute that the vehicle was at this location, as shown in the closed circuit television (cctv) images produced by the Enforcement Authority.

The vehicle is seen to pass the sign which, as the evidence clearly shows, indicates that, except for buses, taxis and ‘BG’ permit holders, all motor vehicles are prohibited at all times.

The Appellant’s case is that

It does remain the responsibility of the motorist to check carefully at all times whilst driving their vehicle, so as to ensure that they do so only as permitted. This includes making sure that they comply with all restrictions and prohibitions indicated by the signs.

The sign, on each side of the carriageway, is that prescribed by Diagram 619 at Item 12 in Part 2 of Schedule 3 to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016, as indicating ‘Motor vehicles prohibited’. The sign is illustrated in the current edition of the Official Highway Code.

The sign, on each side of the carriageway, is that prescribed by Diagram 619.1 at Item 12 in Part 2 of Schedule 3 to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016, as indicating ‘Motor vehicles except solo motor cycles prohibited’.

The penalty charge is £130. The amount of the penalty charge is set by the Transport, Environment and Planning Committee of London Councils and approved by the Mayor of London with the authority of the Secretary of State. Under Section 4((a)(iv) and 4(10) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 the enforcement authority must accept the reduced penalty of £65 if paid within 14 days of the date of the Penalty Charge Notice. This is different from some other types of Penalty Charge Notice, where the relevant date is service. Once this period has expired and, for whatever reason including appealing to the Adjudicator and/or making representations to the authority, the charge remains unpaid then the full penalty becomes due.

Section 4(18) of the 2003 Act provides that in determining, for the purposes of any provision of the Act, whether a penalty charge has been paid before the end of a particular period, it shall be taken to be paid when it is received by the authority concerned.

The Enforcement Authority did, in exercise of their discretion, reoffer the reduced penalty period in their Notice of Rejection and whilst I note all that the Appellant says regarding the circumstances, the Adjudicator is only able to decide an appeal by making findings of fact on the basis of the evidence actually produced by the parties and applying relevant law. The Court of Appeal has affirmed that the Adjudicator has no power to consider mitigating circumstances of any description, including reducing the amount of the full penalty charge.

Applications for time to pay the Penalty Charge Notice must be addressed to the Enforcement Authority direct.

Considering all the evidence before me carefully I must find as a fact that, on this particular occasion, a contravention did occur and the Penalty Charge Notice was properly issued.

Accordingly, this appeal must be refused.