Author Topic: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway  (Read 1031 times)

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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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As you understand it, liability lies with the person who was driving and because it's been 5 months you, as keeper, cannot recall who was driving at the time and date because in your case your wife also drives. Similarly, you don't understand how the council know who was driving after all this time. To add to your confusion the location given in the notice seems to conflict with the photo because ........

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Under what legislation are the council able to serve an FPN for this offence ? Surely only the police can do so ?Their letter only mentions the Highways Act 1980
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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Person, person, person.......

Not keeper owner.

The LLA etc.. Act cannot and does not change the offence - which is committed by a person - simply by whom it may be enforced and how.
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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Does this section not prevent them from issuing after 28 days?

Surely if this went to court a magistrate would want to know why it took them so long to bring up up the offence?

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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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ive made the following draft, do i need to add/remove anything?

I wish to appeal this FPN (ref) I received on the 12th March and dated 10th March on the following grounds,

Firstly, the alleged offence took place on 9th  Oct 2024 which was over 5 months ago,  many drivers have access to this car and I have no recollection of who was driving the car at the time.  The liability lies with the driver and not the owner.  What/why makes you assume it was me who was driving

Secondly, the information on the FPN is wrong. It says I was parked on Guildway road,  ive never parked on that road before. The picture show the car was actually on Billet Road.

I thus believe this FPN to be invalid and look forward to you cancelling the ticket

Regards

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Ps

I know others doing it isn't a legitimate excuse but even just today I saw two delivery vans parked same spot as me unloading stuff for the store.  Now I'm not sure if they'll get a ticket or not but if they are excused then can't I argue there should be signs to clarify ONLY delivery vans are allowed to stop/park up there

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Advice: pl stop parking there. But you seem to question this despite the absolutely clear provisions of the GLC(General Powers) Act 1974 being explained.

You then suggest that because others are, possibly without lawful authority, parking there this in some way justifies you doing so.  It doesn't.

You then look at the posted legislation and refer to a provision which has no bearing, namely that applying to Penalty Charge Notices when your case involves a Fixed Penalty Notice.

I say again, the person liable is the PERSON who permitted or caused the offence unlike with penalty charge notices where the liable party is the OWNER(presumed to be the registered keeper). If you tell the council you were driving then liability rests with you. If not, then with whoever drove which after such a period has elapsed you cannot recall.
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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Cool il stick with this line . Was my draft appeal ok?

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Is this OK to send off tomorrow?

Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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Hi

I tried appealing today, but it kept saying FPN now found (see link below). i then emailed the contact email provided and it bounces back saying not accepting emails (see link). exactly how much by law, do i have to try to get hold of them? if you ring they make you wait for ages to speak to someone.  if i save the proof below i tried appealing and emailing will they accept it once time lapses?


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Re: Waltham forest. Section 137 Wilful obstruction of highway
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hi

just a quick update, on the 22nd March, i got an email from the Waltham forest neighbourhood team ( they issued the ticket) saying they will investigate ( ive pasted their response below). today i got a letter saying ive not paid or appealed and thus have till 22nd April or else theyll take legal action.  Even as of today the FPN isnt recognised on the website and when i spoke to the parking team 3 weeks ago they said it is most likely the ticket has been cancelled.

WHat can i do now if they still persist in taking me to court? i assume i am fine as i got email proof of contacting them as well as the website not finding the FPN.






Hi ****,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

This has been passed on to the relevant team so the issue which is stopping you appealing online can be investigated and resolved.

 

Once we have an update, we will email to you let you know.

 

Many thanks,

 

Reece Bagnall (He/Him)

Customer Service and Performance Manager

Resident Experience and Business Support | Stronger Communities

London Borough of Waltham Forest