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Re: ULEZ Charges
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2024, 11:06:53 am »
@cp8759 I don't do anything now without advice from this forum. Once the CC's increase to 279 each I'll seek advice about the wording for the statutory declaration. Thanks again for everything.

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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2024, 05:53:40 pm »
Did you post up the text of the representations that you sent to TFL? The Adjudicator will ask for those. We might as well have a look while you wait for the OfRs.

Also given where you live, please be aware that Bristol has a Clean Air Zone. You're likely not emissions compliant for the Bristol CAZ.

https://vehiclecheck.drive-clean-air-zone.service.gov.uk/vehicle_checkers/enter_details

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« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2024, 08:52:30 am »
Funny you should mention the CAZ scheme. In January (so a couple of months after I had received the original PCNs) I drove to Bath. On the outskirts I noticed a sign for the Clean Air Zone and so immediately after I had parked I went on-line ready to pay a charge but the only areas that came up were Birmingham or Bristol. Further research confirmed I didn't have to pay a charge but it is very confusing. All I can do is check before I travel if I know I am going through a major city. I only ever really do this when I visit my son in Brighton but I am certainly more cautious now. I also have family in Manchester so will need to check there too although Greater Manchester states "under review" for the charge.

I did check my vehicle for the CAZ scheme using the link you kindly posted and it is not compliant.

I have attached the original letters, sent to TfL directly after I received the PCNs in November. These are the letters TfL denied receiving.

The last time I can check the PCNs / OfRs is Friday but after this I won't be able to get to Yeovil court until 14th or 15th May - still within the 21 days even if the OfRs are issued whilst I am away next week.

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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2024, 10:11:34 am »
It is a bit confusing.

Bath is CAZ type C, Bristol is type D.

The type determines which class of vehicles don't pay. The difference between C and D is private cars.

You will likely be ok in Bradford, Sheffield and Tyneside too.



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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2024, 09:55:00 am »
Having returned from a week away I have checked the status of the PCNs and they have progressed as follows:-

13/5    Debt Registration Accepted

13/5    Notice of Debt Registration Issued

I understand now that I have to make a statutory declaration at my local County Court (Yeovil).

Do you have any advice as to the wording I should include in the SD? I won't do anything until I have heard back from the forum.

Many thanks

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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2024, 09:35:11 am »
@Incandescent @Enceladus @cp8759

Apologies for tagging all of you but I want to go to Yeovil court next Tuesday which is still well within the 21 days to submit a SD, given that the OfRs were dated 13th May (see details in my post just before this one).

I have the PE3 forms ready (one for each PCN). I know that I have to tick the 2nd box (I made reps and didn't receive a rejection notice) but I just wanted to check the reasons and the wording you suggest I use?

Just to let you know also that the costs are now 280 for each PCN - the registration fee must now be 10, an increase from 9.

Best wishes and thank you

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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2024, 10:43:14 am »
@Little Nell for a statutory declaration made in-time, you don't need to add any wording at all, you just tick the box and that's that.

If you want to be 100% sure the form is correct you can upload a redacted version on here and we'll check it for you.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2024, 11:25:56 am »
@cp8759 Please find the completed PE3 forms attached.

As I understand it, I don't actually sign these until I am in front of an officer of the court on the day? Also, I will have my driving licence with me for ID purposes but do I need to take anything else?

I want to make sure I get everything right and it is a good hour's round trip to Yeovil and back for which I need to take time off work.

Thanks again

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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2024, 11:57:49 am »
Yes the forms looks fine, and you are correct that you must not sign the forms yet. The court officer needs to watch you sign the forms in from of him.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

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cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2024, 05:38:56 pm »
You could, of course, use a local solicitor, and save the petrol/time. There would be a small charge for this.

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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2024, 06:22:55 pm »
Yes the fee recently increased to 10. Don't know when exactly, it doesn't seem to have been well publicised.

Just to be clear. You are not making statutory declarations at Yeovil County Court. You are having your SD applications witnessed so that you can submit them to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court. You can also have them witnessed by a solicitor. They'll charge 5-10 for each. Some bigger employers have a tame in-house solicitor, they might do it for free for employees.

Once the completed forms are witnessed then you can email them to the TEC, the email address is on the form. Safer than Royal Mail. Scan to PDF or JPEG and attach to the email. I suggest two emails, one for each form. Put something like Statutory Declaration submission attached and the PCN reference number in the subject line. You should get an automatic acknowledgement email from the TEC for each submission.

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« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2024, 07:58:04 am »
@cp8759 @Incandescent @Enceladus I tried to get a local legal firm (the same firm that did the conveyancing on my house purchase a couple of years ago) to witness my SD but you would have thought Id asked them for a kidney hence the journey to Yeovil.

Just to be clear, once the SD is signed, I just email them separately to Tec? This is not the stage where I submit evidence to try and demonstrate that I did submit the original appeals on time?

Thanks again for all your help.

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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2024, 09:11:30 am »
Just to be clear, once the SD is signed, I just email them separately to Tec? This is not the stage where I submit evidence to try and demonstrate that I did submit the original appeals on time?
That's correct, you don't need to demonstrate anything at this stage. That will come later on when the case is referred to the tribunal. All you need to do is email the completed forms to the TEC mailbox.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2024, 11:40:50 am »
Understood, much appreciated.

Thank you