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Greetings All,

At my appeal London Tribunals made a 'strong recommendation' to the Local Authority to cancel my PCN, the next working day I had a letter from the Local Authority saying that they wouldn't be cancelling the PCN despite the recommendation.  I tried to ask my local councillor to get involved but that yielded nothing.

Have I got any further recourse to anybody or should I pay the PCN, how can it be possibly right that a Tribunal can make a recommendation and the Local Authority dismisses it within 5 minutes, just makes a mockery of the system.

Before I just pay up would be grateful for any peals of wisdom anybody might have.

Thanks All

   

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Case number please.

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2240378813

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Thanks.

Appeal decision: Appeal refused with recommendation.

Recommendation: 'cancel the Penalty Charge Notice'.

Unfortunately, the authority are entitled to reject any recommendation and don't have to justify their decision to the adjudicator.

Pl post what they've sent.

The 14-day period for challenging the adjudicator's decision by way of seeking a review(on limited and specified grounds) has also passed so I can't see any hope through the formal process.

But we should see what was sent to you.

'the next working day I had a letter from the Local Authority saying that they wouldn't be cancelling the PCN despite the recommendation.'. The parallel route is to establish who(as in officer) considered the recommendation, whether they had been involved in this case previously(and therefore looking at the matter afresh), whether they were authorised under the council's constitution and scheme of delegation and whether the rejection was consistent with council policy.

And this starts with your email.

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Thanks for the replies, appreciated, hopefully the attached will give rise to a technicality, seems very standard blurb and non descriptive.



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Thanks.

Appeal decision: Appeal refused with recommendation.

Recommendation: 'cancel the Penalty Charge Notice'.

Unfortunately, the authority are entitled to reject any recommendation and don't have to justify their decision to the adjudicator.

Pl post what they've sent.

The 14-day period for challenging the adjudicator's decision by way of seeking a review(on limited and specified grounds) has also passed so I can't see any hope through the formal process.

But we should see what was sent to you.

'the next working day I had a letter from the Local Authority saying that they wouldn't be cancelling the PCN despite the recommendation.'. The parallel route is to establish who(as in officer) considered the recommendation, whether they had been involved in this case previously(and therefore looking at the matter afresh), whether they were authorised under the council's constitution and scheme of delegation and whether the rejection was consistent with council policy.

And this starts with your email.


Sorry HC - Unsure if you are suggesting I follow this course of action, the problem I have of course is that the time frame to pay the penalty starts to escalate very shortly and my experience of dealing with the authorities parking  email address is that they take an absolute age to reply presumably due to the volume of email traffic they deal with.

Thanks again

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What dreadful English.

Anyway, I would respond in writing - by all means attach to an email but I would also send by post.

Dear Sir,
Your ref: AF07114746/AF071147: PCN No. AF07114746; Case No.2240378813

Thank you for your letter dated Monday 25 Nov. in which the authority declined to accept the recommendation of adjudicator Teper to 'cancel the penalty charge notice' in the above case about which the authority were notified on Saturday 23 November at the earliest. The speed of this response and the lack of consideration and consultation implied give me cause to believe that, contrary to the council's legal duty to act fairly, this was nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction. 

I therefore wish to know the following:

Who signed the letter;
Confirmation that this officer had no prior involvement with enforcing my PCN;
A copy of the Scheme of Delegation which authorises this officer to consider recommendations from the adjudicator;
A copy of the council's policy regarding consideration and determination of such recommendations.

I anticipate that a considered response might take this case past the 28-day period after which the council would be entitled to issue a Charge Certificate which I estimate to be 20 December. I will therefore pay the penalty at this stage but this should not be interpreted as anything other than a preventative step.

For the avoidance of doubt, I accept that the council are empowered to reject an adjudicator's recommendation, but this is not an unfettered power, it requires the exercise of due care by an impartial officer authorised for this purpose and in compliance with council policy.

Yours


I would pay the penalty now because you've raised this too late to expect a response before the 28-day limit.

IMO, do not discuss the merits of the case, this ship has sailed and you would simply confuse matters. This is about acting fairly and proper procedure.

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Much appreciated will do as you suggest Thank you

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I naively thought a recommendation would be accepted but this is Redbridge (and given the contravention was not paying a free charge, the adjudicator could have allowed it despite the extra time taken).

My Anderson has given you a forensic enquiry.

See this about what Redbridge is like - worse than Newham now:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/'redbridge-council-bullies-and-cowards'


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I naively thought a recommendation would be accepted but this is Redbridge (and given the contravention was not paying a free charge, the adjudicator could have allowed it despite the extra time taken).

My Anderson has given you a forensic enquiry.

See this about what Redbridge is like - worse than Newham now:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/'redbridge-council-bullies-and-cowards'

Thanks Stamford, saying that the adjudicator could have allowed it enrages me further, I thought he was decent chap, maybe a  bit of a stickler for the law to the letter,  maybe just paid lip service to the mitigating circumstances despite photographic evidence and screenshots being provided at every turn and I did have to point this out again when summing up at the end.

Not sure what more I could have done, he even suggested that I could have parked elsewhere to which I politely reminded that such a parking scheme existed for miles around the same location.