Author Topic: London Borough of Redbridge - 53j - Failing to comply with a restriction - School Streets - Sydney Road, Barkingside  (Read 1621 times)

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On 24 February 2025, new school street restriction installed in this area.
I was unaware having not driven this route, on 2 April 2025 I entered the restricted zone at 1436 (zone starts at 1430)

Attempted informal representation before finding this forum and assistance, rejected on 24 April 2025.


I have seen several other PCN issue for the same scenario, school street related. 

Location: Sydney Road off the High Road Barkingside

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MP2ScabFmFLTENPf8

The google drive has the following:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a3M64LuIoYojCFQ4bPE1JVXlcdNqWGVG?usp=sharing

PCN AF30846417 Letter - 10 April 2025 / Informal representation - 17 April 2025 / NoR - 24 April 2025


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@cp8759 @Hippocrates

Hi, hope you can assist, I have seen other similar threads regarding the school streets

The blue sign below the main one, is the winner, because it doesn't define the term times.

If this was an event zone, they would have to put up the date of the next event, and this is obviously a cost issue because a man has to go round updating the signs. So here they think they can get away with it by putting up the blue sign. Several appeals have now been won on this, and no doubt Hippocrates will soon assist you.

@cp8759 @Hippocrates

Hi, hope you can assist, I have seen other similar threads regarding the school streets
@shah123I am happy to do so. I will PM you and offer to assist you free. cp8759 has little capacity at present. We won a case on this proscribed sign (term-time) and many others are in the pipeline.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-failing-to-comply-with-a-restriction-on-vehicles-entering-a-pedestrian-zone/msg49432/#msg49432
« Last Edit: April 30, 2025, 02:30:05 pm by Hippocrates »
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"


My absolute pleasure as ever.  ;D
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Literally just got done for exactly the same thing! Did not see the signs at all. @Hippocrates or @shah123, any chance you could share the formal reps and/or appeal evidence that you submitted? Thank you so much!

Please start your own thread.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Same here. Just today got PCN in post for entering a pedestrian zone in Sydney Road Barkingside. Completely flummoxed me as the signage is quite high up and I had been parked right alongside the said road and signs and was more focused on the heavy traffic and pedestrians crossing etc 🤦🏻
It looks like the blue sign that was visible when Shah123 received his PCN back in Feb has been altered. It previously read: 'School Streets Restricted Access Term Time Only'...Sign now reads a truncated version: 'School Streets Restricted Access'. I'm presuming LB Redbridge have made the alteration in the light of the above noted successful appeals.
So I wonder if there is any longer a realistic chance of getting this overturned?

Same here. Just today got PCN in post for entering a pedestrian zone in Sydney Road Barkingside.
. . .

So I wonder if there is any longer a realistic chance of getting this overturned?


For meaningful advice:
Please to have  aread of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and start a new thread, posting up there
(use
ibb.co or https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)

all sides of the PCN you do have (only redact yr name & address - leave all else in),
A GSV link to the location,
and any council photos/video.

OP, Appeal was successful.

Well done.

May we see their evidence bundle pl, in particular the Traffic Management Order.

Hi there everyone, I have just received exactly the same PCN for exactly the same reasons. Could anyone help me too please?

Thank you

Hi there everyone, I have just received exactly the same PCN for exactly the same reasons. Could anyone help me too please?

Thank you


Welcome to FTLA.

For meaningful advice please to have a read of

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/.

start your own thread and post up there a brief account of the circumstances with copies (not transcripts) of

all sides of the PCN,
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.


Only redact yr name & address from documents - leave all else in.