Author Topic: London borough of Redbridge, 31j -Entering and stopping in a box junction, High Road Chadwell heath (B)  (Read 556 times)

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On that basis my take would be as follows.  However, cp8759 is vastly more experienced than me in such matters so ultimately he should have the final say. EDIT - looks like he has while I was typing this  ;D
« Last Edit: March 13, 2025, 01:19:48 am by cp8759 »

The box is substantially compliant so I wouldn't bother mentioning that it extends beyond the junction, even the most benevolent adjudicators would struggle to allow based on that. The right turn exemption obviously doesn't apply as you were not turning right out of the box, so I'd concentrate on the ground that actually has merit:

Dear London Borough of Redbridge,

I challenge liability on the ground that the penalty demanded exceeded the amount due in the circumstances of the case.

A penalty charge notice must provide the grounds upon which the Council believes that the penalty is payable and this must include a sufficient description of the location. This PCN only states the location as the High Road, which is approximately three miles long and has a number of box junctions; as such it fails to adequately describe the location.

As such the notice fails to adequately describe the location of the alleged contravention, I refer you to the case of Young v Day [1959] EWHC 1 (Admin) which is a binding High Court authority on this point.

In light of the above the penalty charge must be cancelled in any event.

Yours faithfully,


Take a timed / dated screenshot of the confirmation page.

Thanks for this. I really appreciate. So grateful. I'll give a feedback asap.

Hi All,

I appreciate your efforts. Just to give a feedback that the appeal was rejected.

Attached is the letter of rejection

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15rDREKBtCK1ZDLYFumGYphTEZxXmeykp/view?usp=drivesdk

Thank you for your inputs @MrChips @cp8759

You need to allow access to the NoR, or use another hosting site such as imgur or ibb.

@John U.K

Thanks , I have given access now.you can check

That's a complete failure to consider, that alone is reason enough for many adjudicators to allow an appeal. I'll drop you a PM in case you'd like me to represent you.
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