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This is a common location although more so for the banned turn exiting Longfield Avenue I think.

You can look on the tribunal register - this one is from this year. But some adjudicators are more accommodating about signage than others.

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2240055417
Contravention location   New Broadway / Longfield Avenue

The appellant attended the telephone hearing of this appeal today.

The council did not attend the hearing.

I reserved my decision.

The contravention alleged in these proceedings is that this vehicle performed a prohibited right turn.

The appellant argued in accordance with his written submission supported by the evidence he provided that signage was inadequate.

There is no requirement for the marking of a solid line or island in the middle of the carriageway.

There is no evidential duty on the council to provide footage showing a vehicle passing signage.

On the evidence before me this prohibition is signed by one regulatory sign posted on the left of the carriageway prior to this junction. That signage is preceded by advance warning signage. I am satified that that signage when taken as a whole, all of which I infer would have been fully visible to the appellant, was sufficient to alert him to this prohibitoin and I find this contravention proved.

The appeal is refused.

All is not lost. You should still make a formal representation. I will draft something later. Each case is different and one never knows what people submit in cases won or lost.

Quote from: Hippocrates on November 29, 2024, 07:49:40 pm

All is not lost. You should still make a formal representation. I will draft something later. Each case is different and one never knows what people submit in cases won or lost.

thanks, I also noticed the Representation Grounds they provide are pretty slim, see here: https://ibb.co/1255wt9

they seem to be missing Procedural Impropriety, The Order was Invalid, the PCN was paid, the contravention did not occur etc. am I just clutching at straws here or can they choose which grounds to list?

The grounds for appeals against the PCN are in the Act that the PCN has been served under, (LLA & TfL Act 2003). You are quoting those from the Traffic Management Act 2004, used in London for parking offences.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/contents/enacted

See Schedule 1 in the above

I was told 3,661 (that’s just over 10 every day!), almost £240k. 8 of these were appealed. Seems a high number to me pointing to inadequate signage, but not sure I want to risk this.

Or that there's a genuine traffic management reason for the prohibition and that there are a lot of chancer drivers still out there.

OP, pl drop the references to 'the driver', this is owner liability. 

I had a look at that. Section 4 Paragraph 8a (v) says the PCN must state "that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable". Should this be from the date of notice or date of service? The actual PCN I received states it's from the date of service (how can the council proved when it was served?).

Look at 8(a)(iii).